I think that is the "cause of dispute". If person A uses them (the
"nice clamps") daily, she gets the benefit of the extra features daily.
If person B uses them 3 times a year, then she enjoys the benefit 3
times a year. Person A pays much less, per use, than Person B, and so
may enjoy her ownership of the nicer clamps more so than Person B, even
though both are using the same clamps (in this example).
I think also, he thinks he is happy with what he has yet in another
thread he is considering a different type clamp from HF.
I think that he is a predigest to any comment that is contradictory to
his way of thinking.
I dont't mind helping some one with a my seasoned prospective but to
discount every one's views is rude.
I'm not sure that pipe clamps equates to bar clamps.
I am thinking EC is referring to the heavy bar clamps with a pin that
fixes the lower jaw, and a crank that tightens the moveable acme
threaded jaw. They are definitely different than a pipe clamp.
But still , IMHO, fall short compared to the K style clamps.
And the k style (not original bessey, unless you grind the punched down
area off) can be a spreader. I have used my cabinet masters many times
as a spreader. So I can confidently say they save me aggravation and
saved the day.
My Cabinet masters were gotten on an amazing sale at Woodcraft online..
they announced it a week ahead, and I sat up waiting for the clock to
tick, as I knew they would go fast. I think I paid on average 14 -16 a
piece... I got 4 of the 24, 4 of the 36 and 4 of the 48...
I have bought a few besseys and a few woodcraft copies (don't buy them)
they suck.. the heads twist... they look absolutely identical, except
for the bar, but they are not. And it is not the bar that is
twisting,its the head... POS
I've been tempted to buy other clamps on sale but decided it would be
better to keep all the parallel clamps the same (Besseys). This keeps
the work level when resting on the clamps and the accessories work on
all the clamps.
That is a good reason to stick with Bessey but if you don't mix "one"
with another "one" it is generally not an issue with just the clamps.
Use the same brand in pairs. If your clamps are on a work surface and
you are mixing brands Besseys tend to be smaller. It is difficult to
add a larger clamp with a higher bar if you start with Besseys.
That may be true but in another part of the thread IIRC he mentioned the
Yes! That is why I went with Cabinet Master over the original Bessey
K-Bodys. That and the moveable foot on the end, and the larger clamping
surface. And now if you combine 2 clamps, to make a longer one, you
have to remove one of the moveable heads so that it will not be in the way.
I got mine during the period when they had aluminum bodies on the screw
end. BUT shortly after that Jorgensen dropped the aluminum and used
steel. I found a place that was clearing out the aluminum styles and I
got a heck of a deal, similar to yours. Then all the ones with aluminum
heads began to break. With a life time warranty Jorgensen replaced all
12 of my aluminum heads with steel replacements.
I have 7 Bessey Revo K-Bodies. I am disappointed that they are not as
durable as the Cabinet Masters. I have dropped both onto concrete
floors and the Besseys always get battle wounds, not the Cabinet
Masters. I am also disappointed that Bessey did not use a moveable
foot. And as I have mentioned earlier my 2 Jet K-style clamps leave
impressions on the project. And being truthful the Jets acme threads
seem to be chrome plated and to not feel as smooth as the Bessey or
i had confused my terminology
i have pipe clamps that i like for the consistency and low cost
do not think i have seen this type
i do like the idea of spreaders for the dual-purpose
not bad at all
i keep a sharp eye at flea markets + swap meets + garbage sales
i mean garage sales
i need to watch craigslist more for clamps
woodcraft probably just put their name on some junk
it is the sirens of cheapness singing and drawing them into the rocks
and or unwary customers which leads to mutually assured disappointment
short term gain long term loss
FYI, anything in the URL after the first question mark
character is generally not part of the URL, but rather tracking information
about the user who browsed to that URL (called query parameters).
is sufficient and doesn't expose your browsing information to the
rest of the world.
Usually it's an encoded version of the search query you used
to get to that page. Generally appended by a site-specific
search function (public search engines will use the referrer header
which is standard vs. query parameters which are site specific).
The Bessey's are nice, agreed, but I could never bring meself to spend
that amount of money they wanted for 'em.
Of course, all the bar clamps are now outrageously priced, too, it
seems; glad I acquired the collection I did when and how I did and don't
do enough work to require more any longer...
The Bessey's have one huge advantage, which is that you
can clamp things that aren't quite square, and two huge
disadvantages, which are the cost and the fact that the
sliding head won't stay where you put it.
I like to do a dry run on whatever I'm clamping, and I
want the clamps to stay set whereever I've put them so
all I need is a couple of turns of the handle when the
real, "live glue" clamping is done. Can't do that with
So I have two of them, for those rare occasions when I
need to clamp something that's not square, and all the
rest of my clamps are Jorgensens at 1/4 the price.
Cheaper and work better, can't beat that.
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