I don't 'check' your grammar, Jack. Your errors are glaring.
I also don't denigrate SU users. I applaud them. I have no reason to
switch to SU as I am happy with what I have.
I also own an ultra-sonic thickness meter, just to find out how thick
your skull and how thin your skin is.
Does that interest you at all?
And why WOULD I waste my time learning an unfamiliar, inadequate piece
of software? Free or not?
What is your point, Jack?
OK, let me rephrase... Perhaps your time would be better wasted pointing
out blatant spelling errors on usenet.
Didn't say you did or didn't. You do denigrate SU, never missing an
opportunity to point out things it (SU) can't do, whilst admitting not
wanting to "waste time" learning it. This generally ends up with
Swingman wasting his time pointing out that SU does do what you say it
Good for you!
Only to see how wrong you can be, even with fancy gadgets!
My point is you have to be dumb as dirt to point out the inadequacies of
something to which you state you are unfamiliar. It keeps getting worse
as Swingman, and others, often point out how little you seem to know
about the application.
So, as I have already said, the fact you are familiar with some
expensive software, spent cash at school to learn all about CAD is fine,
and good for you. Brag about it, complain about it all you want.
Denigrating a hunk of software you are unfamiliar with is just dumb.
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Robatoy is a self confessed tool snob. But his comments are interesting,
maybe even old school. But he does have skills. And he does let you know
what he thinks.
But Robatoy comments, whatever they may be, hardly qualifies for the
"denigrating" characterization. His comments are a refreshing
alternative/counterweight to the SU cultists. ;_)
We should be encourageing alternative perspectives in this forum. Not
"denigrating" those folks who have a different viewpoint.
Was that a bottle of scotch or a bottle of cognac I was supposed to
Cognac?? Dis you say COGNAC?? That brings back memories!! My dad brought
back a bottle of cognac from WWII. I drank it. I just couldn't help myself.
Mmmmm...., good. <smacks lips>
No problem with that. I have no problem telling people what I think
either. Few participating in any news group have a problem telling you
what they think.
I've yet to hear him say much good about SU. Once you figure out he
never "wasted any time" learning it, it starts to becomes less
interesting, more amusing.
to treat or represent as lacking in value or importance; belittle;
disparage: to denigrate someone's contributions to a project.
There could be a better word for this but for someone like myself, that
doesn't know the difference between "hall" and "haul", I believe I done
His comments are a refreshing alternative/counterweight to the SU
That's ok for you to feel that way. My feeling is when someone never
misses an opportunity to point out self perceived faults with something
he admittedly knows little about, it is not really refreshing, unless
you are easily amused as I am. As far as "SU cultists go, I find that
almost as amusing as alternative views from those unfamiliar.
That's one perspective. My perspective is blandly encouraging
alternative viewpoints would boring. I guess one mans entertainment is
another man's pablum. That's why I don't read every message thread, nor
reply to every messenger.
I'm glad I encouraged your alternative juices...
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One of the thing that I could never get use to in version 6 was the
three dimension presentation. Each time I used it my edges were in
With version 7 this seems to be corrected and you can make some pretty
good old fashion 2d drawings.
Just give it a try and see how it works for you ... occasionally use SU to
send drawings to machine shops for beam/truss hangers that we need to have
fabricated for embedding into foundations.
Admittedly very simple fabrications, the one below was drawn on my laptop,
real time on site, while the Engineer watched, and the pdf export was sent
using my cell phone as a tethered modem ... a couple of years back what took
30 minutes would have taken a week, and cost a helluva lot more.
Basically, for 2D shop drawings like this I haven't found anything that I
can't do quicker with SU than with my CAD programs, and, as you say, the
added and easy 3D ability is just a mouse move away and an added plus.
BTW, the machine shop didn't blink an eye ... then again, I'm always amazed
to find a machine shop that actually does business via e-mail and even knows
what a pdf file is. :)
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