I replied earlier about Ken Vaughn's site, lamenting the loss of Ken's
knowledge. Well, I just did a search and found his site at this URL, which
I believe is newer:
http://home.comcast.net/~kvaughn65/index.html Looks like, at least Ken, is
Jeff: So glad to have what you so freely share and I highly value
accessable. Many thanks.
I started this thread and, since I've lurked about on the rec long
enough to know better, I'm not surprised to see the direction it
took. I'm not interested in debating intellectural property and
copyright protection. Actually, I'm interested in woodworking. One
day I hope to acquire the necessary skill and have the time to post
web pages showing my shop, my projects, my jigs, etc. I have
thoroughly enjoyed these posts from others who have freely shared
their experiences. I have learned a lot and expect to learn more.
When I do post, I expect anyone who sees my postings to be able to
copy, save, share and use what they see and enhance their wood working
experiences. I would also like feedback and a "thank you", but that's
not neither necessary nor expected.
As I've said before, I've lerned an awful lot because others have
taken the time to post and, kinda like a debt, I expect to contribute
back some as well. I see this group like I see my wood working club.
A collection of folk who will freely share their skills and teach
I am a hobbiest. Perhaps, if I did this for a living, I might not
want to share info so freely, but I expect I would not enjoy this
endevour as much.
So again, I'm sad to see some of the quality sites slip away and I
celebrate the opportunity to visit great sites (like Jeff's) that are
"here and now".
:: What is your opinion of Morris Dovey's sentiments?
:: If we were to archive pages from your site on our personal systems,
would you consider it "stealing" or "preserving"?
To be candid, having been on holiday, I've forgotten Morris's sentiments,
but when putting stuff on the internet I've always been aware that I've lost
control of it's eventual use. I gather that applications do exist for easily
downloading entire web sites.
I know how much people's hobbies can mean to them; my aim is to help folk
get good results by following time-honoured and sound techniques. I first
started this site when woodworking groups could only use ASCCII code to
construct drawings but it has extended to re-using material already
published (and paid for) that otherwise would be sitting on my hard drive
and doing nothing very useful.
Since it is freely offered, logically I can't see it as stealing, but I'd be
shocked if content (especially the pics) was copied 'verbatim' and blatantly
offered as someone's original work.
Fairly recently I saw that somebody has done a sketchup drawing of my ramped
shooting board (http://tinyurl.com/24zpu7a ) but since he/she did acknowledge
the source, that was pleasing and OK by me. However, I don't know what I
would think if, as is extremely unlikely, somebody offered them for sale in
quantity without prior contact.
However it would make my day if, as has happened in the past, folk who
thought that the content was worth the trouble of archiving were also kind
enough to tell me. My slightly disguised email address is at the foot of
each posting, but not (so far) on the site itself.
The new, much-easier-to-use software that prompted me to restore the site
does offer a comment box but so far I'm a bit wary of trying it.
Jeff Gorman, West Yorkshire, UK
email : Username is amgron
ISP is clara.co.uk
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