For all of your powder actuated fastening needs, pay a visit to
www.pinsandloads.com Pins and Loads.com specializes in tools, pins and
loads from ITW Ramset. We also have a tool cleaning and repair service, as
well as powder actuated tool user certification.
Grainger is a great company, who we regularly do business with. I'm sorry
you feel that one post in topical newsgroups is spamming, and hope that if
there's ever a problem with Grainger, you'd give us a try. I'm sure you'll
be more than satisfied.
You don't get it.
Your spamming was not appreciated.
Neither was your top posting.
And as your your moronic "one post in topical newsgroup" criteria, that is
the very essense of spamming. Newsgroups are places where people go to talk
and learn. Not to be hustled. If you had been coming here awhile and making
an active contribution, we probably wouldn't mind a plug for your biz.
Because we would know that you have contributed.
But when the only thing you provide is spam, it is just as unwelcome
wherever else we encounter it. You want to know what would really satisfy
us? If you didn't come around any more. See how simple that was?
I think it is a self defense thing. Against those "wild" exotic hardwoods.
Ya know, the ones with the grain patern that always looks like it is moving.
So if it starts to move on you, you pull out the powder actuated tool
(otherwise known as a gun) and shoot it before it gets you.
Ideal for folks who are paranoid and use drugs.
See Lenny, I should write your ad copy!
What have you contributed to the group?
If I was to hang an advertisement on your car or truck, would it be OK since
it was a one time thing? If WalMart posted a billboard on your front door
would it be OK if it was a one time thing?
As you can see, you've not made many friends today. If you were a regular
contributor and had your web site in the sig line, we'd soon know what you
sell and if you are worthy of our business. You used the wrong approach
I did apologize, as I was not aware of this group's "rules". Now
that I know, I will respect those rules and not make a post like that again.
I certainly do not want my company to be confused with those companys who
unscrupulously spam and bombard people with ads, viruses, spyware, etc.
Maybe I erred in judgment, but I didn't realize that by making a post in a
newsgroup, I would be put in the same group as those that repeatedly abuse
Ok come on. The guy isn't flooding the group and bailing. He even had
the decency to reply.
A lot of you guys sure have a bunch of double standards. Nobody seems
to mind when Robin Lee tell about the latest sale, or when someone is
trying to sell hand planes, or Table Saw Aligner JR (all of which are
Sure he did. First it was the standard "It's no big deal" response,
then he actually seemed to get a clue. I acknowledged that just now,
right there above.
And the critical difference is that all of those are cases of a person
who actively participates and adds value to the group on a regular
basis, and then mentions the products they sell. There's a huge
difference between that, and someone coming here only to exploit the
group for free advertising, while providing nothing of value.
Have you seen groups awash in spam, Larry? It's not pretty. They end
up dead and abandoned to the spammers.
On Wed, 25 May 2005 18:29:43 -0400, "no(SPAM)vasys"
Uh, I used mine just a few weeks ago (again). Of course my
"woodworking project" is currently a house remodel, but I was nailing
wood (albeit to concrete).
I'm a fairly regular poster here and now that the air seems clear
about the sequence (substantive posts first, and then "oh, by the way"
marketing posts after you've become a little more known--check with
the cabal; if there is one...) and frequency (never very often), I for
one hope he sticks around and adds something.
For example I'd like to know how seriously certification is taken,
particularly since the big boxes sell their Remingtons (and Hilti's)
to the general public without question. Robatoy can testify for us
that certification is certainly a different story in solid surfacing.
I wonder if there's any parallel.
I'd be glad to help answer any questions anyone may have on powder actuated
fastening. I know I'm risking getting flamed here, but there's also a forum
on our website with an "Ask Dr. P.A.T" category, where our resident powder
actuated tool expert will answer any questions on fastening, applications,
repair, cleaning, etc. I won't post a link, because once again, I'm not
trying to offend. To answer your question on certification, LRod, from what
I understand if the tool is to be used for personal use, no certification is
required. Of course, we'd encourage ANYONE using a powder tool to take the
brief training course. It never hurts to learn the safety precautions for
using a new tool. For contractors or professional use, OSHA requires each
user to have certification. Any tool operator not certified is subject to
Only I didn't use a Hilti, but I did use a hammer drill with some Tapcons.
(Tapcons are pricey, but so are concrete nails) I had to fasten some
furring strips to a concrete Granted, that hammer drill isn't as fast as a
Hilti (powder actuated hammer tool, or whatever they're called these days),
but it's not annoyingly slow either, especially considering the time it
takes to load a new nail, and set the cartridge in a powder driven nailer.
Side note: Powder actuators are made for concrete. It would shatter brick,
likely as not.
Just thinking about it, and completely unscientifically, I'd guess that in
the trades, it's the framing crews that carry use the most powder driven
hammers. They're usually nailing to a flat concrete floor. The rest of the
trades, especially plumbers and electricians tend to use hammer drills;
better control on vertical concrete walls. Besides, they usually have a
couple of hammer drills for drill through concrete.
I don't have a powder actuator, but I've used them and my BIL has a
Remington. (I think he like the noise.)
Can you say "deaf" for several hours?? Those suckers are loud.
Just chatting...not preaching
And the smell. Ah, I love the smell of cordite in the morning. Smells
Suffering with tinnitus and constant ringing these last 45 years from
youthful indiscretion (i.e. no hearing protection while shooting), I'm
VERY aggressive these days with the application of my David Clarks.
Including (especially) when using my Remington.
And this has to do with woodshops how? I don't attach projects to
concrete walls or floors.
I know what powder actuated tools are used for; I've used them; I've
even rearranged some woodworkinga areas with them; they're about as
commonly useful in a woodworking shop as is a MIG welder, maybe a
what woodshops have to do with powder actuated tools is irrelevant to
your choice of attachment surfaces is irrelevant to this conversation.
do you or don't you?
so they do have relevance in even your woodshop.
welding is a great process to have in a wood shop. I use it to make
and repair tools, sometimes make hardware, that kind of thing.
so basically I know what you're getting at; that discussion of ramset
stuff is off topic for the wreck. That's bullshit, though. if this was
rec.cabinetmaking or rec.furniturebuilding I could see it, but this is
rec.woodworking. topics vary all over the place here and OT stuff is
tolerated widely. the discussion of tools used to attach wood to
concrete is just as on topis as a discussion of predatory billing
practices on the part of woodworking magazines, but I haven't seen you
complaining about that.
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