Greetings. I have started working with the restoration of mid 1800's
accordeons. Since I am new to this group, I don't know what is
possible, and would like someone to help me identify the wood species.
Is there a place in this group where I can post a few pictures, and
have someone look at them? The research on these instruments I was able
to do had one account that said the veneer was rosewood with holly
lines (accent trim). Most of the instruments were imported into the USA
from Paris France, however other were also made in the USA. To my
untrained eye, the wood looks like walnut, however factors such as age,
finish, etc. make it even more difficult to tell. All help is greatly
appreciated. Thank you in advance. Andy
Thank you. I posted six pics to Flickr. They are tagged accordeon, and
are titles Accordeon 001, Accordeon 002, Accordeon 003 Accordeon 004,
Accordeon 007, and Accordeon 008. 001 & 002 are of the US made
instrument, 003 & 004 are of the French made instrument, and 007 & 008
are of French made instrument (Frame Only).
Please take a look and let me know what you think. Thank you in
Thank God, I was finally able to find out what was wrong (in the
configuration settings) that would not allow me to post to
alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking! It will only allow me to post one
picture at a time, however I have sent three posts. Post 1: Species
Identification is of the American made accordeon, Post 2: Species
Identification - 2 is of the French made accordeon, and Post 3: Species
Identification - 3 is of a French made accordeon (frame only).
In Flickr, I could only find my pictures by clicking on the "My
Pictures" but not by searching for them.
Thank you for your patience, and I hope to hear from you once you
have some time to look over the pics. Andy
The first two posts were 'Andrew Gelfert', then I changed it to more
friendly 'Andy'. I posted using the News server 188.8.131.52
sucessfully. When I try to use another news server such as
news.readfreenews.net, when trying to post I get the following error:
Outlook Express could not post your message. Subject 'Accordeon 1',
Account: 'news.readfreenews.net', Server: 'news.readfreenews.net',
Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '440 Posting Not Allowed.', Port: 119,
Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 440, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9. I have
also posted croped down (size) versions of the pics to the
alt.binaries.pictures.furniture group.Could you please add the
newsserver of 184.108.40.206 and go to either newsgroup and see if you
can see the pics?
As for sending a piece of the wood to be identified ... this would be
out of the question, in that the size of the piece that is required
would destroy the instruments. However, thank you for the link.
This might be an even much better alternative ... Flickr allows you
to create a webpage to post your pics ... so I did
Please go directly to http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyacc
to view the photos.
Please let me know, I am praying that this works. Andy
I saw it fine Andy. Your quest was successful! I don't know the wood
species. Sorry about that. It would seem to me that it would be easier to
identify if the pieces were a little larger. Given the shape, you probably
can not do that.
What country are you in? I did not know that accordians were that old. How
old an instrument is the accordian? And is there a good market for antique
Good l;uck with your unique avocation.
Thank God that worked, and thank you for looking. The first patent for
such an accordeon was filed in Paris, France in 1829 by an Italian of
Armenian descent named Cyril Damian. The instruments are specialty
items, and interest is limited to historians, some collectors,
musicologists, however my interest is in music, and musical instruments
during the American civil war (I am in the USA). Thank you for the well
wishes. Perhaps I will post more pictures (now that I know how to do
that) and perhaps a larger sampeling will give better clues. Thank you
Thanks to everyone on this thread. I have posted a total of 30 pics on
the website. I am going to start a new thread, so that many people can
view and comment on the pics. Again, I thank you all for your help, and
appreciate your comments, and expertise.
Thank you for your reply. I have spent that last while trying to get
to alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking. I finally went to a free news
server (news.readfreenews.net) and was able to see message threads. I
was not able to post any pictures because when I tried to send a post
(with pics attached), I got a message saying that the address I was
trying to send to was not valid (alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking).
Please help me understand how to get there, and how to post. Thank you
Some of these groups are not easily accessible depending on you ISP.
Fortunately I have no problem using OE and accessing this group. I am sure
someone may be able to lead you the way, fortunately I have not had to learn
Next time you need to be able to take some sharp close-up shots that
illustrate the grain, pores and other identifiable characteristics. Include
a scale or ruler for size reference similar to what you see on crime shows
where the CSI photographs small objects. Use a neutral brown or gray
background, white gives glare with a flash, black would obscure edge
details, photofloods would help as the flash is usually too bright for close
As the photos you have, it could be almost any wood treated to look like
many other woods. Lack of detail prevent even trying a guess.
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