I *know* that you aren't so naïve to think that there aren't hacks at every level.
Again, we don't know who did the wiring at JC place, but it only took one simple search in a city that I picked at random to almost instantly find a company that does both residential and commercial work.
I'll bet you'll find some in your city too.
I'll agree that many jurisdictions *mandate* that the NEC be followed, but that doesn't make the NEC itself a law, under the legal definition of a law.
When an amendment or clarification or even a whole new version comes out, these jurisdictions aren't running it through their legislatures for approval.
I'm pretty sure that no one ever challenged the NEC in their state's Supreme Court. ;-)
Ayup. The sort of thing which appeals to guys trying to stay under budget, be they DIY or Professional DIY.
DerbyDad03 snipped-for-privacy@eznet.net on Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:17:09 -0700 (PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
And that there is the kicker. Doesn't matter what the standard is, if there was a standard, "it worked" and got "signed off".
J. Clarke snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com on Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:20:41
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This is sounding like one of Those Projects. Where it turns out the easiest way to have solved it was to have taken the old bulb and put it in a new house.
J. Clarke snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com on Mon, 22 Mar 2021 13:22:34
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Come to B.A.R.F. Construction - We'll throw it up!
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That's pretty much it. The guy built half the town, to the lowest price he could manage.
There are times when I think that my next improvement on this house will involve a bulldozer.
I had a similar issue that I traced to a poorly grounded connection inside of a metal junction box in my basement ceiling... someone thought it was a good idea to put two separate circuits into this same junction box, practically touching, wrapped loosely in electrical tape... who needs wire nuts? No splicing tape and solder? Electric tape to the rescue... haha. It was causing like a 40 volt leak onto another circuit.
Sorry to butt in - but question. I have an Edison circuit (never knew that was the name - having trouble finding info on-line) ... 2 K&T wires running into a 120 year old ceramic fuse box - 2 hot shared neutral.
Someone told me that I need to have the two hots skip a breaker on the same side so they are on the same phase - because if I use two phases it can risk lighting up my wiring to 240V if a connection is broken.
Another person told me no, I need to have both hots on touching breakers
- opposing phases - because if I don't I can theoretically overload the neutral line up to 30 AMP if the both circuits are loaded.
Do you have a suggestion as to which is safer? I won't run anything more power-hungry than a fan, phone charger, or lamp on either of these circuits. Certainly no heaters or A/C units. Everything else stays off if I run the vacuum. Thanks!
Code says different phases for the two hots. Should be both wired to a single duplex breaker with the handles pinned so that both open and close at the same time.
Indeed. If, for example, your meter showed 34vac at the light socket when the 3-way switched circuit was switched off, what would your diagnosis be?
This. If they're on opposite phases, the current in the grounded conductor (aka neutral) approaches zero as the load on each leg approaches capacity.
If they're on the same phase, the current through the grounded conductor may be 2x the circuit ampacity.
J. Clarke snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com on Mon, 22 Mar 2021 23:46:47
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"It's just Engineering." Which is another way of saying "it's just money."
As my boss used to say "If you haven't got time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?"
I don't see that much crossover. Residential and commercial work are significantly different with different people (union vs. non-union, for example). Hacks, yes, but the issue is having an unusual cable on-site when doing residential work and even the thought to do something asinine like this.
With the same people?fm I know a business (not electrical) who advertises related but targeted at both.
No, it *is* law, with all of the responsibilities and penalties of any similar law.
Nope. The *LAW* delegates that to the NFPA. The law incorporates the NEC (and NFC) as law.
It would stand as much as any other regulation (law). There are far more such regulations than there are laws and all have the force of law. In fact, it's damned rare that legislatures pass laws anymore, other than to give powers to administrative departments.
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An inactive runner, capacitance from the hot runner, and a high-impedance meter.
He's doing a house-transplant.
In computers there's a term "yak shaving" for trying to solve one simple problem and getting diverted into a trail of fixing many other problems uncovered in the process. The term comes from "Ren and Stimpy", but I haven't seen enough of that to know more.
The TV show "Malcolm in the Middle" has a good example, also from changing a light bulb:
------ no one wants to shave the yak but then you find you need to for reason X
Thanks! I've had them on the same phase for years... oops. I suppose I best go fix that, and look for a duplex breaker. I really ought to run a few Romex lines up from the breaker box and pull that ceramic fuse box.
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