I am considering moving to Vancouver, BC and since there are a number
of Canadians who post here, I figure this is as good a place as any to
get the REAL story of life in the Great White North. ;-)
I've looked over the official government web sites, but like most such
sites, it's not particularly helpful.
My questions are:
What are the average income tax rates, and what other taxes are there
to contend with?
Are "immigrants" eligible for the health care system?
Gas runs about 114 cents per liter, or $3.45US per gallon, correct?
How cold does it get in the winter, and how hot in the summer?
(Global warming not considered...)
Which side of the road do you guys drive on? lol
Is English the predominant language of BC?
Is your government as corrupt as that of the usa's?
Any other useful information concerning livability would be greatly
I'm assuming this is the equivalent of the US State's sales tax -
which can be anywhere from 5 to 8% - so that's in line...
The loss of mortgage deduction is unfortunate, however.
Some of which is considered zone 7-8 by the USDA.
LMAO. Here in the big city, on any given Friday/Saturday night, you
might come to the conclusion that lanes are optional. Heck, if what I
witnessed last night was any example, ROADs are apparently optional.
We don't, however, have mooses. ;-)
I understand that May in Ontario is a really exciting time...
I hear ya... But the fact that no one else in the world cares, in
today's political climate, is a BIG plus.
That tea business was a looong time ago. These days, they would just
bribe some douche bag politico type and share in the profits.
And don't be too sure about the US being concerned with any
individual's rights except for the well-heeled. Again, that was a
looong time ago. The US Constitution is being gutted, and corrupt
local political types are not interested in anything but their own
miserable, overpaid careers.
Speaking of which, I have quite a bit of woodworking equipment - I'm
hoping that the voltages and frequencies are the same as the US, and
that you don't have restrictions on bringing your own equipment into
Canada. Dado's are legal, etc. Is there a fee involved with bringing
your own personal possessions and equipment across the border?
His original estimate of 40% is overstated a lot. If you're paying that much,
an accountant or your head examined. It's more like 27%-33% for most people.
There are such things as deductions, after all. Don't forget that with those
you don't need your own personal health insurance, though you might want
for things like dentistry, private rooms, prescription drug coverage etc.
In addition, while Vancouver is a pricey place to live compared to many other
it's one of the most liveable cities in the world. Various organizations that
for quality of life put Vancouver at or very near the top - well ahead of almost
cities. You get what you pay for.
Oh, yes - bring a hardhat - they're overdue for an earthquake. :-)
Who has never lived in Vancouver.
You didn't say whether you were professional or a hobbyist. I'll assume
you don't make your living from woodworking
In that light, I don't think there is anything that is illegal in terms
of what equipment you can use. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm
Voltages and frequencies are identical. If it works in the US, it'll
On bringing your stuff over, if you're moving here, it shouldn't be a
problem since it's your personal belongings and you're not bringing the
stuff into the country for resale. If you have a truckload of equipment,
Canada Customs will likely question you about it, but I'd contact them
beforehand and ask what, if anything, you have to do to prove that.
They don't have a lot of information on immigrants, but you can start
This site may tell you how to bring your equipment in:
Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita http://www.x-privat.org/join.php
Cool. Thought so, but it pays to be sure.
My next question is, Will my Audio/Visual gear work there as well?
Is NTSC the broadcast standard? AM/FM radio the same?
And has Canada embraced the ATC HD digital TV crap yet?
On Mon, 22 May 2006 18:02:28 -0000, Art Greenberg wrote:
Never mind, I looked myself. You are wrong. From the "Amateur Certification
Fact Sheet" found at:
"Effective April 1, 2000, Industry Canada has combined these documents into
one authorization, the Amateur Radio Operator Certificate. This certificate is
the sole authorization required to operate amateur radio apparatus in the
amateur radio service."
"Authority to operate radio apparatus in the amateur radio service is issued
to holders of an Amateur Radio Operator Certificate with Basic Qualification.
"Other qualifications available with the Amateur Radio Operator Certificate
are Morse code and Advanced Qualifications.
"Operating privileges are granted according to the level of achievement.
Attaining honours scores (i.e. 80% or above) on the Basic examination or
attaining qualifications in addition to the Basic Amateur Certificate will
grant the amateur certificate holder certain additional operating privileges
as specified in RIC-2, giving full access to the amateur frequency bands below
30 MHz (i.e. high frequency (HF))."
Reading a bit further down this page, you'll find equivalencies and other
important related information.
There may be a two-way radio service available to Canadian residents that does
not require obtaining a government issued license, but it is definitely NOT
the Amateur Radio Service.
Well, this may have been misleading and/or incomplete.
It was mentioned in two places, one of them here, the other I can't
recall the URL. The quote was:
Radio transmitting equipment
A U.S. resident is allowed to operate aircraft, marine, amateur,
citizen band (CB), and Family Radio Service (FRS) radios as well as
cellular and PCS mobile radiotelephones in Canada, without explicit
permission from the Minister of Industry.
If you are not a U.S. resident, you will need permission from Industry
Canada to use this equipment.
It doesn't say that you need to be a US citizen AND possess a US FCC
amateur radio license...
I really haven't had time to thoroughly research the entirety of CA
law - sorry if that misleads anyone.
In the case of licensed services, such as the Amateur Service, that only
applies to license holders.
Now, if you want to operate on the Amateur bands, why don't you get a license?
I did it when I was 12. It really isn't all that difficult.
OK - I surrender. ;-)
Did a 10 minute read of a CA gov site, and mistakenly assumed
something which was untrue. The wording was vague.
Obtained a license when I was a teen - then upgraded so that I could
repair and maintain equipment later on. All equipment and paperwork
was destroyed in the late 80's. Never bothered to replace either,
unfortunately, because it was never a big money maker. But the times,
they are a changin... And I now feel the need/desire to hop back on
the radio waves. But I will have to again bone up on Morse code, as
that is something I haven't used in over 20 years. At the time, I was
mostly interested in slow scan video.
I am actually surprised at the number of people who actually remember
what the ARRL or a 10 meter band IS at this point in time. Must be a
lot of old farts in here... ;-)
Especially surprising after watching three 20-something guys drive a
car for over a mile with a flat tire Saturday night - totally
mystified as to how to change a tire. They eventually called someone
on the cell phone, after pressing buttons on the key FOB didn't
magically fix the problem. Truly a pathetic display of clueless-ness.
Thanks for the clarification.
You don't get any kind of repair & maintenance privileges with an Amateur
license, and you don't need any special license to work on that gear, at least
not in the US. Broadcast and commercial two-way work did at one time require a
Radiotelephone License, quite a different animal from an Amateur license. I
don't know if that is still the case.
Well if you're going to do this while you're still in the US .... 5 WPM is
the top code speed. You can get a Technician class license without Morse.
The General class license requires 5 WPM, and upgrading to Extra class
from General class is done without any additional code test.
Look at http://www.arrl.org/arrlvec/license-requirements.html
Canada's license structure is different, and I didn't pay attention to the
requirements, which I think were posted on the URL I cited earlier.
I've been a ham since 1965. During sunspot peaks, 10 has been my favorite
band. I used to drive around with a converted CB rig in my car, and could
easily chat with hams in South Africa with just 5 watts AM and a 100-inch whip
antenna. Way cool.
Woodworking came much, much later.
But I think you'll find there are plenty of younger folks getting into ham
radio these days. Things aren't as dismal as you seem to think.
Anyway, we've used plenty of the group's bandwidth on this off-topic branch of
the discussion. Feel free to follow up with me via email if you wish. Address
Good luck with your move, and everything that follows.
What that means is: IF you are only visiting and IF you are suitably
licensed in the US. If you are a US citizen living in Canada or do not have
a license in the US, you have to get a Canadian license.
The marine license comment is misleading further. If you have a US Marine VHF
without a license (legal for recreational boaters) you must get a license to
use it in Canadian waters.
US GMRS radios are not allowed in Canada. Canadian GMRS is limited to
2 W and no license is required. US radios are 5W and exceed permitted
CB, FRS have no license requirements. Cell phone licenses are buried in
the contract agreement and fees (signed or implied - you pay regardless).
Remember, I didn't write the paragraph...
Also, See previous reply to Art's message.
Thanks for the concise summary.
It certainly makes far more sense that the site I quoted.
More research is in order...
You do not need a license for "CB", or "RC" models, but you still most
likely need one for "Ham radio". You can drive and talk on the cell
phone all you like, it's still legal. Whistler is a two hour drive from
Vancouver on the deadly'est road in BC (Maybe western Canada) and while
it gets a ton of snow, Vancouver (at sea level) gets mayby a trace in a
given year, if that. A cold wave is when the temperature drops to 32
House prices in Vancouver are the highest in Canada, and I filled up with
gas on Friday at $1.20 CDN, for 1 liter. We have two Lee Valley outlets,
one Busy-Bee tools, two KMS tools, 1 Summit tools, and of course the
Borg. (needed to add the woodworking component to the post).
So, the radio requirements aren't too dissimilar to the US.
It's too bad about cell-phones - I consider them a scourge upon
society. Not only a severe safety issue while driving, but a factor
in the dumbing-down of the populace as well.
Mass-NonThink scares the hell out of me. JMHO.
House prices aren't as much a consideration as land prices, and when I
stated Vancouver, I didn't mean Vancouver proper, but more outside the
ring of dense population. More interested in building my own
passive-solar cabin with a woodworking shop out back. Bears and owls
and moose make far better neighbors than what I have here... ;-)
I did check gas prices on the Internet, and while expensive, perhaps
not as expensive as it's going to be shortly in the US. It is my
understanding that the US imports much oil from Canada, you guys might
end up being better off than the masses here.
As for the elevation, I want to be a minimum of 30 feet above sea
level. And it could still end up being waterfront property before I'm
As for the cold and snow, that is one reason I picked the Vancouver
area, it is in a more temperate zone than the rest of the Great White
North. It's all pretty nice in the summer, but in winter - brrrrr.
Don't want to live in an area where you die if your car breaks down.
And back to woodworking, you apparently have far more tool outlets and
wood suppliers than we do, and I live in a metro area with well over 6
million people - and growing. Rapidly, Uncontrollably, and Without
Plan or Reason.
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