onward & upward

Maybe I am playing too safe but your links take me to a site to download a file. I would rather not do that.

Yeah, same here.

First, congrats on the bathroom! Sounds like a helluva lot of work to me.

I was really wanting to see what you were up to dadiOH, but downloading lik e that is scary for me, too.

I have built a few exterior doors along the way, and I am almost positive t hat Karl and I have had a conversation of him building them, too.

Not nearly as hard or demanding as other projects unless you do something l ike a 15 panel door. The trick is in the jamb fit.

It sounds like a great project, but personally speaking, I find it hard to compete with a factory built door blank as I can see live and in person the joinery as well as if the door is warped, straight, or square before purch ase. As bad as the lumber is around here I wouldn't build a door unless I needed a size I couldn't buy. I would spend more time than it was worth ju st sorting out and conditioning the wood before cutting and assembly.

BTW. have you considered an oversized stainless kick plate to combat the ef fects of your little sprayer?

Robert

Yes, they do. I figured looking at the actual Sketchup file might help people visualize some of the stuff I was asking about. The only way for them to do that is for me to post the file somewhere and provide a link so they could download it, has to be downloaded to view.

In the case of the jpeg for those who do not have Sketchup, I just stuck it at the same site - since I was there anyway - rather than a more normal image sharing site such as Picasa. In both cases, the purpose is to allow someone to view an image; in the case of the hosting site I used, one downloads a file; in the case of Picasa, one downloads exactly the same data but it is not in a file form. In the case of a file, it is easily deleted when one is finished viewing; in the case of data from Picasa et al, it stays on one's computer until one cleans out the TEMP/Temporary Internet Files/etc directories that are usually filled to overflowing.

I do understand your concern (Robert's too) but keep in mind that everytime we click on a link to whatever, we are downloading stuff, all of which COULD be malicious. When downloading a file, one gets a pop up showing the name - including extension - of the file, what program opens it and a choice to either open it or save it. If one chooses to save it, it can then be scanned with an AV program.

The days are long gone when it was necessary for the user to actively click on/download malware to be infected.

Today's advertising platforms are notorious for offering drive-by opportunities for transfer of malicious software, both "pre-click" and "post-click" by the user.

Pertinent part of that link is included below for those not aware of the dangers of drive-by malware infections:

pre-click: "Examples of pre-click malware include being embedded in main scripts of the page or drive-by-downloads. Malware can also auto-run, as in the case of auto redirects, where the user is automatically taken to a different site, which could be malicious. Malware can also be found in the delivery of an ad ? where a clean ad that has no malware pre or post click (in its build and design) can still be infected whilst being called.[8] Malicious code can hide undetected and the user has no idea what's coming their way."

post-click: "the user clicks on the ad to visit the advertised site, and instead is directly infected or redirected to a malicious site. These sites trick users into copying viruses or spyware usually disguised as Flash files, which are very popular on the web."[9] Redirection is often built into online advertising, and this spread of malware is often successful because users expect a redirection to happen when clicking on an advertisement. A redirection that is taking place only needs to be co-opted in order to infect a user's computer.[1]

"Malvertising often involves the exploitation of trustworthy companies. Those attempting to spread malware place "clean" advertisements on trustworthy sites first in order to gain a good reputation, then they later "insert a virus or spyware in the code behind the ad, and after a mass virus infection is produced, they remove the virus", thus infecting all visitors of the site during that time period. The identities of those responsible are often hard to trace, making it hard to prevent the attacks or stop them altogether, because the "ad network infrastructure is very complex with many linked connections between ads and click-through destinations."

Another good reason to run an adblocker (among other protective measures) and not listen to the propaganda of the advertising industry.

When it comes to those websites who don't allow those with adblocker's to visit, I say verily: F*ck You!

Understood! But I typically do not purposely down load from a site that I have never seen before. Just something I practice.

"Swingman" wrote

I absolutely agree with you on this. I often have to go to websites that have so much "extra" activity going on it that the page won't load properly. But with an adblocker, I get some whiny complaints about I am cutting into their bottom line. No mention of how all that crap not only slows down my computer, but as you point out, is often associated with malware. Adblockers greatly speed up download time on many websites.

Another thing about those ads that many people are not aware of. I work sometimes with people who have vision and hearing problems. (I am not so hot in those departments myself.) They need to use settings within windows and third party programs to see and hear the material on the website. But companies routinely screw up those settings because it "interferes" with their ads. Like these folks are going to buy something from a company that sabotages their web experience. By installing an adblocker on their machines, their access to the web more than doubled.

And another complaint I have about ad heavy websites. Ever go to a website that took some time to load. First this ads loads, then another, then another and if an ad, which is located somewhere else doesn't load, the whole webpage freezes. Or all the ads load, then they inform you that the page you are looking "no longer exists".

It is just like television. Nobody with any brains sits there and endures huge amounts of advertising. We record it and fast forward through all the crap. Why should we do anything differently on the web? If websites want to unleash the ad weapon on us, like warriors of old, we get hold of a shield. It is a form of self defense as far as I am concerned. And far healthier for my blood pressure and the health of my beloved computer, After all, he is a member of the family. I need to look out for him.

The two that annoy me most are the one where just as I click on the link I want, an ad pops up and shifts the link, and the pages that I see load and then vanish.

I would like to see legislation that holds internet advertisers strictly liable for all damages resulting from their advertising, with all web page owners who display their advertisements equally liable. Many ads are executable code so this is no longer a passive activity--if they plant malware on you they should be required to clean it up and compensate you for your losses.

Of course the advertisers will scream bloody murder and so will everyone who operates an ad-supported web site. I for one don't really care.

It's getting worse:

Things like that is why one should keep their disk image's updated.