Kitchen musings..... shelving vs. cabinets, notions of design....

[Dave]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:27:56 -0800, Gunner

The biggest problem it will create is having a profound affect on the society that permits it to happen openly. Some don't think that's a problem, but it goes against the idea of family values and attitudes.

Other than that, licensed or not, brothels affect land values, tend to attract the criminal element to wherever those brothels are centred, (even if they are licensed). I'm sure with a little further thought, I could think of few other contraindications.

Would it bother *you* to have a licensed brothel next door? Would it bother you to have a licensed addiction needling sight next to where you live? How about a licensed marijuana grow op that supplies to the medically ill? I don't know of anybody who would say, "no it wouldn't bother me."

It's easy to say "why not", but there's *always* consequences.

[Dave]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:30:31 -0800, Gunner

I never could get past the awkwardness I first felt with using a trackball. And, I could never envision a trackball being as precise as a mouse.

I know from experience that give enough time, you can get used to most anything, but it makes me ask why would I want to use a trackball when I'm completely satisfied with regular mouse usage?

[Leon]

How long have you had that M570?

Now that I have asked, ;~) I am going to tell you how to fix it when it quits working properly. I am on my 3rd in 2 years, Logitech has replaced 2 units without requesting a return.

My problem has been with the center click button, this center click is a big time saver in Sketchup for orbiting while panning. Anyway I could hear and feel the click but the orbit command would not engage unless I pressed even harder after hearing the click and then some times having to hold down the wheel and wiggle it. The cursor would not go from a pointer arrow to an orbit icon. A real PIA.

After getting the second replacement I decided to open up the one with the problem. Both had the same problem BTW. There are "5" screws on the bottom and inside that have to be removed to open the unit. One screw is obvious just under the ball on the bottom. 3 more screws are under the rubber pads opposite the ball and at the far long ends. The 5th screw is under the battery label at the

1.5v lettering. Poke a hole through the diagram label at that point to find the screw. Then pull the bottom half away from the top half.

Inside you have a small square switch with a round button, flood that switch with electrical cleaner and or any other switches that may be giving you trouble. Thoroughly blow dry the assembly, I used compressed air and reassembled. Works like new again.

[Leon]

I have been using a track ball IIRC since Logitech had the white simi round unit with the little blue ball that tolled wheels. That ball was operated with your right thumb. I only had one mouse prior to that which was in the 80's before a mouse was standard equipment.

I never never never could get use to the finger operated track ball. The thumb operated track ball was instantly intuitive for me 20+ years ago.

I can see how the finger tip operated track balls might be more difficult to get used to.

My number one reason is so that I don't have to move my hand all over my desk when panning a drawing or moving the cursor from one point to another in the screen.

I can orbit and pan and zoom in/out on my drawings without moving my hand or mouse.

For some people the track ball is as difficult to master as is the mouse is to me. I think the thumb track ball might be easier for you, I would go back to a mouse vs. a finger operated ball.

[Puckdropper]

Leon wrote in news: [e-mail]:

The Thinkpad line of laptops has a "touch point" or some other goofy name. It's the red thing in the corner of the g, h, and b keys. It mostly stays out of the way, but it's far superior to the track pads most laptops are saddled with. After a few hours of mouse-heavy activity, like Sketchup, my hand isn't aching and my finger isn't raw.

It did take a bit of getting used to, but it's worth it.

Puckdropper

[krw]

The same problems as other decadent members of society create. Poverty, human trafficking, child abuse. Nothing important.

No guarantee.

Certainly no guarantee.

Wrong.

You're *way* wrong. It solves *no* problems and creates many more.

[krw]

You must be looking in a mirror again.

For $46? Retail? You are nuts!

You certainly are.

Stop being such an idiot and I won't call you on it.

[Attila Iskander]

It gets the blue-haired ladies really upset..

[Attila Iskander]

Nope That's caused by the illegal/underground/black market trade. Places that legalized it, usually have none of those issue.

Actually yes, if your cathouse wants to stay in business.

Actually yes, Since they are required to be tested regularly and are effectively unable to work legally.

See above.

Funny how experiences in Nevada and Amsterdam prove you wrong.

[krw]

Nope. Legalizing the trade doesn't change this. It just makes more.

Bullshit. It's still prevalent in NV.

Don't be so myopic. The guy with the fuzzy dice doesn't give a shit.

Wrong again. It doesn't change the street trade one iota.

See above and try *THINKING*.

Please do.

You're as wrong as you can be. I suppose you don't think there are problems with legalizing drugs, either. Idiot.

[Attila Iskander]

Makes more "what"exactly ? Why don't you provide us some data to support your claim

Hello ? Anyone home ???

Legalizing it makes it more prevalent ? Prove it, dummy

So clearly your clueless and ignorant and just working off bigotry

Try again dummy

Why ? When are you goind to demonstrate some ?

Well clearly you can't as long as your eyes are closed and your yap is open.

Great sig you have there. I agree. YOU ARE an idiot And an ignorant one at that.

[Martin Eastburn]

We finally lost our Microwave tank we bought in 1980 or 81.

We bought a new model - about the same capability - less in some way more others - but this one I could pick up and hold in one hand.

They changed the heavy core transformer - 1 KW is a transformer!

To a switcher supply - aka modern.

When we turned it on, it swamped or killed WiFi in the house. Never tried the cell phone but computers would not be on line...

I now have hard wire to those computers and we can use the microwave anytime.

It is a Panasonic. Works just fine - suspect the osc in the switcher is just there.

Martin

[The Daring Dufas]

You could try a power line filter, I have small ones I use on telecom equipment but I'm sure you can get a high current filter for appliance use something like what's in the links below. ^_^

TDD

[Michael A. Terrell]

I have tried several trackballs, and none felt right. They were much harder for me to position the cursor accurately than with a decent mouse. It might be OK for newsgroups & Email with more practice but they were useless for Eagle (Circuit board layout) ot LTSpice (Circuit simulation) Forget doing graphics with GIMP or another graphics package.

[Michael A. Terrell]

Why didn't you take it back for a refund?

I have a 20+ year old JC Penny microwave oven with a membrane keyboard that don't show any wear. It would have been junked long ago, if the keypad was damaged. It's in storage at the moment because it's too tall to sit on the kitchen counter. It will be put back in the kitchen after the handicap modifications are finished. IN the meantime I've had two smaller microwaves fail. A Samsung had the controller fail, and a brand new Westinghouse failed with less than five minutes use and the power cord was so hot I couldn't touch it. A real POS. Right now I am using a stainless steel piece of junk that was dropped when it was new. I straightened the door so the latch would operate, but it's nothing to brag about. I will say that I have only bought one microwave in the last 30 years, and I paid $2 for it at a thrift store with a bad interlock switch that was repaired with a used microswitch. The rest were all picked up as junk & repaired.

[Gunner]

Odd...thats what unlawful prostitution has created. And you want to keep it that way?

No guarantee you wake up in the morning either.

How so? They can call the police if they have a problem. They cant now.

Still waiting for that list of problems it creates. I/we will be waiting with great interest for it.

Now if you have a religious or moral objection because of your religion, simply indicate that, rather than waving your hands in the air and pontificating.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

[Gunner]

Actually...most of the blue-hairs would rather their grandsons visit a hooker than get a girl preggers.

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

[HeyBub]

In general, if something become legal, more people will participate. Examples:

• Concealed handgun carry in Wisconsin. A little over a year ago, virtually zero. As of today, 136,000 permits have been issued.

• Smoking dope in California: More than half a million residents have the voluntary ID card.

[Jim Wilkins]

I plugged it in to edit this reply. After a week my thumb dexterity is improving. I've been using the end of my thumb for coarse motion and the joint or middle pad to put the cursor between letters.

I just noticed that I can position the cursor more precisely with my clumsier left hand on this Dell Latitude's touchpad than with my right hand on either the trackball or the mouse. The touchpad resolves 9 separate cursor positions across a lower case 'w'. I'm still much quicker with the mouse though. jsw

[Attila Iskander]

Does not demonstrate that people didn't carry before Only accounts for those that got permits

Same argument Prove that they weren't potheads before