I just finish another job~

[tiredofspam]

I like the way you trapped the middle case in on top. Nice.

What is going in the middle of the the cases below that middle case?

[Swingman]

Gorgeous as usual, Bubba! And time to celebrate with an:

[Mike M]

Beautiful bookcase. Too bad those backpanels aren't door panels. A shame to hide them behind books.

Mike M

[Dave Balderstone]

Beautiful! You even make red oak look great!

[Leon]

Thank you!

I have seven adjustable shelves plus the bottom shelf on each outer cabinet and the customers current saggy book cases are pretty much adjusted so that there are no gaps. ;~( Either way show or no show it looks goo now. LOL

Yeah the center supports work very well although they totally totally eleminat the need to go to the "sagulator site" to determine how much your shelves are going to sag. ;~)

[Lee Michaels]

Leon, a couple more questions.

When you do your double face frame construction, are all the face frames held together with just glue? And when you attach the face frames to the body, do you just glue them as well? Are there any mechanical fasteners involved? Dominos?

How did you drill the holes for the shelf hangers? A commercial jig, or?

[Leon]

Thank you , I used a similar method on our pantry with the center stack of 22 drawers.

Mu customer has a 48" wide red oak students desk.

> I started this project near the end of last month. My customer wanted

[Leon]

>Thank you! and I agree with the celebration. Ummmmmmmm.

[Leon]

Thank you!

Too bad those backpanels aren't door panels. A

That was what I was thinking. LOL

[Leon]

Thank you Dave!

Funny you should mention the red oak looking good. I built with that stuff for 30 years and only recently started using white oak because of IMHO nicer color and what seems to me a bit sturdier wood/less splintery. It has been 18 months since I have really built anything with red oak and looking at theses book cases I have to agree that this red oak seems to have a very nice color. Maybe it is the Old Masters gel varnish. ;~)

[Leon]

The front face frames are held together with floating tenon Dominos and glue, all butt in appearance joints so to speak.

The back face frames use lap joints 1/3 x 2/3 to form a 1/4" deep rabbet all the way around the opening to receive the back panels. and then all of those joints are reinforced with floating Domino tenons. This provides a very clean looking back side and allows me to screw in the back panels.

3 pictures are worth a thousand words.

The back face frame joint,

joint separated

detail of that joint with the Domino showing.

> How did you drill the holes for the shelf hangers? A commercial jig, or? For 15+ years I have been using the Rockler shelf pin jig and it has seen tens of thousands of holes. But it is getting long in the tooth and showing signs that it could fail, the plastic is cracking around the guide holes. So I replaced it with this one, smaller than the Rockler but it gets into tighter spots. I have had this jig about 4 months and have drilled about 1,300 holes with it so far.

[-MIKE-]

I haven't followed the whole thread so I'm unaware of any inside jokes.... so are you saying this *is* in fact the Old Masters stuff.

This is the stuff you say dries pretty fact?

[Larry Jaques]

_Nice_ amount of book shelving, dude.

Yeah, I prefer the wider shelving (with pretty good access behind the center post) over dual narrow shelves. I think I'll use the L shaped, pinned shelf supports next time, too. They're much easier to work with than the flatted pins.

-- If you're trying to take a roomful of people by surprise, it's a lot easier to hit your targets if you don't yell going through the door. -- Lois McMaster Bujold

[Larry Jaques]

-- If you're trying to take a roomful of people by surprise, it's a lot easier to hit your targets if you don't yell going through the door. -- Lois McMaster Bujold

[Bill]

I'm 99% sure that the answer to that is yes.

Bill

[Steve Turner]

Looks very nice Leon!

It seems like a lot of the work you do is in Oak; is that a personal choice or is that reflective of what your customers ask for?

[Leon]

Thank you

Lots of oak, and mostly because it the least expensive of the hard, hard woods in this area.

[Leon]

Yes that is the stuff. Actually most all of the gel varnishes dry pretty quickly but the Old Masters is head and shoulders above General Finishes Gel Varnish.

[Leon]

And the L shaped pins can not come out unless you remove the shelf first.

[J. Random Lurker]

Hey Leon -

I use General Finishes "Gel Topcoat"

and am happy with the results. Is the GF Gel Varnish you refer to above in fact the Gel Topcoat, or a different product?

Besides drying speed, any other reason you prefer the Old Masters product?

Thanks.