My 10-foot trestle dining table is coming along nicely, but I've run
into a design hitch. I was planning to use the plans in the book that
someone recommended I buy (thanks, Dave), and the customer likes the
bench design (a photo of similar)
Holy cow. That's some serious word wrap.
Anyhow, it's a flat bench, no back, but my plans call for only a 9"
width, which may have been fine for Shakers, but modern American asses
are considerably larger, I would think. I said twelve, but my wife
says even wider. As a kid, our school benches were a 2x12, and having
sat on one of them recently (a 2x12, not a school bench) I think that
may be good. However, my ass may not be an accurate cross-section of
the general population, and this is a rental house with many asses
coming through the place, all to be plopped on these benches.
What to do?
You don't want to many big butts in your rental house. If you make an
uncomfortable dining area they may eat less. Shaker, less is more
philosophy. They may lose some weight. Your house's trusses/joists
may thank you. My bicycle seat isn't even 6 inches wide at the widest
part and I can sit on that for a few hours eating and drinking until
my self contained supplies run out. How about a 2x4? I have sat on
them when building houses. The wide 3.5 inch side is more comfortable.
The excess butt just hangs off the end of the bench. It isn't like the
big butt is going to drag the floor or hang so low that it is going to
get kicked by someone walking by.
Wasn't there some thread about pointy sticks? Maybe one side could be
the pointy stick side with the good food. If they can sit on the
pointy sticks then they can eat the good food.
You can take it from a "real ass" ... 12" will be fine. Any wider and the
fatter asses will be complaining that the width is cutting off circulation
to their legs. Besides, a little ass hang-over ain't necessarily a bad
A reproduction of a Classic One-Holer might do the trick.
And you would have the option of building a companion love seat, based
on the Classic Two-Holer.
These designs have proven themselves to be quite comfortable, as there
are stories of people who could sit on them for hours on end.
Thomas J. Watson - WoodDorker
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post a sign next to the bench that only 1/3 of americans can sit on it
(that's the third of US peeps that *aren't* overweight)!
Swingman's 12" rec sounds good for the other 2/3's tho.
Somewhere I have a quote from a Shaker but I can't find it right now. Basicly
his comment was that benches like this are only suitable for temporary use.
He was thankful that his group was able to finally move to chairs.
Imagine being your typical American lard-butt, seated in the middle of that
ten foot bench and suddenly having to get up to go to the bathroom - with
two more lardbutts on either side of you. All five have to get up at once
to pull the bench back from the table. Looks good in pictures, but in
practice it is not much fun.
Wack up a quick bench out of a 2x12 and some 2x4s and have your customer
try it. You may get an order for ten chairs rather than two benches.
I can find no modern furniture that is as well designed and emotionally
satisfying as that made by the Arts and Crafts movement in the early years
On 18 Mar 2005 05:14:34 -0800, the inscrutable
You mean 5' width and 9" depth, don't you? <eg> Sounds uncomfortable.
These are no pickinick tables, BooBoo, but they're benches.
"Mission Furniture: How To Make It" lists 3 Stickley piano benches
which were 15, 16, and 16-1/2" deep, and the hall bench was 18".
Build for the worst possible case. Go 14"+ deep. They'll be comfy for
the larger folks who will notice the difference and tell their large
friends how comfy your place was. The thin folks will find more room,
too. Win/Win, wot?
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There were fat-ass Shakers, but the benches were made to accomodate
the extra weight. After all, if a heavy angel sat in a chair, it
needs to be strong enough to support the weight. I've seen a lot of
Shaker benches, in various shapes and sizes. Nine inches is quite
narrow, 10 or 11 inches is more common and a few are 12".
On 18 Mar 2005 05:14:34 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Take a look at Fred Bingham's book, "Practical Yacht Joinery".
The subject is covered in some detail since every sq inch that gets used
on a boat is not available for something else.
Might give you some ideas you hadn't thought about.
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