How does a fine woodworker change a lightbulb?

[Leon]

I actually already miss that saw, I do believe that it went to a good home.

[Artemus]

400? I snagged this thread back around 2002. Art

Q: How many rec.woodworking subscribers does it take to change a light bulb? A: 1,331:

- 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the list that the light bulb has been changed.

- 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently.

- 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.

- 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs.

- 53 to flame the spell checkers.

- 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list.

- 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.

- 109 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take this thread to alt.lite.bulb.

- 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped.

- 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts ARE relevant to this group.

- 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty.

- 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs.

- 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected URLs.

- 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list.

- 33 to summarize all posts to date, then quote them including all headers and footers, and then add "Me Too."

- 12 saying they are unsubscribing because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy.

- 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three".

- 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.

- 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.

- 47 to say this is what rec.woodworking was meant for, leave it here.

- 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.

- 37 empty posts.

- 250 debating the merits of magnetic light bulb filters.

- 3 giving you URLs for really sexy adult light bulbs.

- 74 to say look it up on google

- 32 to post pictures of light bulbs to this non-binaries group

- 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid.

- 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp".

- 15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct.

- 17 "business" experts saying it is impossible to turn a profit changing light bulbs and how much it actually costs a "professional" light bulb changer in supplies, overhead, labor, insurance, etc to come in and change it for you.

- 93 or so that will tell you that you HAVE to HAVE the $1,499 light bulb changer as opposed to the $8.99 at HD or Lowe's, even if you only change lightbulbs on the weekends.

- 9 reminding you that light bulbs don't need changing under Linux

ever!

- 4 saying how under Mac O.S. xx anyone can change a bulb right out of the box.

- 3 to blame Bill Clinton for the fact that the original bulb burned out.

- 3 more to say that George Bush is too dumb to change a light bulb.

- 3 math flamers saying: I get 1621, not 1331.

- 43 asking for plans on how to change a light bulb.

- 1 posting 27 unrelated plans, that were found while searching for plans on how to change a light bulb.

- 31 saying that Real Light Bulb Changers don't use plans.

- 12 complaining about top posters!

- 21 warning of the dangers of DUST generated while changing said light bulb!

- 1 to quote the statistics of the thread.

- 42 to complain that the light bulbs you get from Sears are crap.

- 27 criticizing Norm for using light bulbs instead of illuminating his shop with candles like the true craftsmen would have done in the old days.

- 3 to point out that it is Bill Gates fault that the bulb burned out in the first place.

- 3 more to blame Ronald Reagan.

- 30 to blame Bush.

- About 12 to complain about outsourcing to India, and ask if anyone knows of any programming jobs.

- 1 lone soul to blame Bill Clinton.

- 1 nut to say that we are destroying the planet to generate electricity to power your light bulb, and you should replace it with an organic candle.

- Several to decry the light bulb industry for the "obscene" markup on light bulbs.

- 1 to explain how to weld the filament back together. (with a 110 volt wire feeder of course).

- 928 to insist that only a Miller 110 volt wire feeder will do the job.

- 1002 to insist that it must be a Lincoln.

- 2 to ask if flux core wire will work.

- 1 old timer to recommend hammer welding the thing.

- 8 guys to say they have oxy/acy welded thousands of fillaments back together.

- 121 to comment that "if you can't TIG it, then stay on the porch".

- 6 to ask if they can TIG it with CO2, so they don't have to buy another bottle.

- 347 people to debate weather you can buy, or have to lease a big argon cylinder.

- 13 to decry the use of "made in china" light bulbs.

- a couple more to blame it all on Gates.

- 1 to link to his ebay auction of light bulbs.

- 6 to call that ebay guy a spammer.

- 1 guy to describe how he powers his light bulbs with a home made VW diesel running on bio diesel fuel.

- and, 2,379 to say "I don't know about light bulbs, I've never owned a light bulb, never seen a light bulb nor changed one...... BUT, here is what I would do....".

[Swingman]

Me too ... No reason to stop in the shop on the way in any more, I'll just go straight to Kim's kitchen. Who did you say you sold it to? Does his wife cook?

[Roy]

A true Galoot would have used a turnscrew rather than a battery powered drill assembling the ladder.

Thanks for the video posts. I snorted (liquid) coke when I saw the demo of hand planing a melamine top. Both vids were great.

[nailshooter41]

Leon, I have had a chance to use a Sawstop, one that was tuned up by a factory trained rep. That saw was SWEET. Quiet, powerful, accurate, and the fit and finish on the saw was excellent.

If I were to buy a table saw, that would probably be my top choice. It is in a wood shop now and has been used by a lot of different folks, and all the baloney you hear about the saw firing off in an almost random manner isn't true. I even cut some wet pressure treated wood on it and it was fine.

However, the manager of the shop showed me a tiny scratch on his finger... the piece of wood he was ripping shattered (some kind of hardwood he scrounged that was cracked) and he slipped forward and his finger touched the blade. He said there was a loud bang that traumatized him more than the little nick, and when he recovered, he put the new cartridge in the saw. The blade was ruined, but the cartridge only took about 15 minutes to install and he was back in business.

Oh yeah... he only had a nick on his finger instead of a bunch of stitches.

I like those machines >.

Robert

[Dave]

Yup, beat you to it and I'm considering if I should also fly down there and beat you in person for calling me Han. :)

[Dave]

On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 15:15:33 -0500, Leon

Well, until and if you replace it, I want to hear when you have a cutting job that only a table saw could do.

I don't know if I could do without the use of a table saw in a workshop. At the very least, it shouts out loud and clearly to anybody looking at your shop ~ "WOODWORKER". A tracksaw just doesn't have enough of a presence to do that.

[Dave]

Yup, many times when the buddies would drop over, we'd end up in the workshop and use the table saw to place our beers. Didn't use coasters though. There something very manly in having several condensation rings on your table saw surface.

[Leon]

;~) It will be replaced shortly. Looking at a Hammer now and still considering the Laguna, and the Pro and Industrial versions of the SawStop.

[Leon]

You Canadians area types, you all look alike. LOL SORRY HAN! Sorry Dave!

[Leon]

Ouuuu very good to hear Robert! Thanks for the extra check mark of approval.

If I go back with a traditional cabinet saw it will be a SawStop. But this saw being the one that replaces my last, "last saw", again I want to consider all the options. About the only other saws in the hunt are the European saws, Still looking at Laguna and now Hammer.

The SawStop that you tried out, do you know if it was the Pro version or the Industrial version? The pro has the plastic motor cover on the left side of the saw and the industrial has the steel motor cover on the right.

I have looked at both but not quite close enough to make a decision. I did not want to waste a lot of time, well more than I have already done, investigating a saw that I was not quite ready to buy. I had no Idea that my saw would sell so quickly. I really was not in a hurry to sell it. I do like the table size of the industrial, 3" deeper and conducting a scientific test similar to the integrity SAG test I conducted on the desk upper storage cabinets, the industrial was a much heavier feel'n SOG.

Darn near all of the Euro saws that I am considering have a sliding table, and the Laguna has a scoring blade. The biggest problem I have with the Euro saws is that they would be more trouble to move around and that would be a daily routine for me, and the Euro style rip fences wold have to be removed by sliding them off the end of the round steel bar. There would be no more lifting the fence straight off the saw. I extensively use the "T" stile fence on both sides and that would no longer be possible. I am sure I can find work arounds for all of these issues but do I want to? OH and all the Euro saws are right tilt.

Any way I'll keep y'all posted. Seems there might be a new Hammer dealer in Dallas, I might be able to touch and feel the saw.

[Larry W]

No doubt there will soon be an issue of Shop Notes with an article featuring "THE ULTIMATE LIGHT BULB CHANGING LADDER" of coure featuring recommended sources for any hardware that might be needed.

[Han]

Dave wrote in news: [e-mail]:

Hey, that's a compliment, Dave!!

[Han]

Leon wrote in news: [e-mail]:

That's OK, Leon. My Dutch brother-in-law has a sister-in-law married to a Canadian. And Rob S. married a wonderful Canadian girl. Hi Angela!!

[Bill]

I saw a similar article in a recent issue of Shop Notes yesterday: Where To Put Your Hinges (spacing). Gosh, I thought, if I was able to figure out how to build a cabinet, then I could probably figure out where to put the hinges! : )

The article was not visually unappealing, it just answered a question that didn't need one (IMO).

[Dave]

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 09:31:59 -0500, Leon

Watched a video recently of a pretty high end Laguna CNC sliding panel saw. It's BIG and undoubtedly expensive, so I'm doubting it's what you have in mind for your purchase ~ but you never know.

[Leon]

Way out of my league! But fun to watch. LOL

Now for the top end stuff, elegant!

[Dave]

On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 09:12:45 -0500, Leon

Yep, I've eyed the F45 for a long time. It would be one of the prime jewels in my 1000 square foot workshop.

[Pat Barber]

Wonderful...love the way he handles the new bulb.

[Leon]

1000 might be big enough LOL

And then the saw that I will probably end up with. At about 5:44 minutes in the video there is a good shot under the hood of the Industrial SawStop and why it is soooo much heavier than the Professional SawStop. Massive full width trunnion, front and back.