I'm considering getting a Harbor Freight framing nailer. I usually buy
higher-end stuff, but I need this just for the occasional project, and don't
want to outlay $250-$350 for a Senco, Hitachi, etc.
My question has specifically to do with safety. Is there any reason to
think the chance of injuryt would be greater with a HF nailer than
a better quality one?
-- Andy Barss
Look on the PC refurb tool web site - no need to pay new prices for a
brand-name, quality tool. If there is a framing contractor's supply
store available, see if they have some used framing nailers for sale. I
got a moderately used Paslode F350S for $175. Use it all the time.
Dave is right. Name-brand stuff will retain it's value much better than
the generics that are produced for a much lower price point.
I've had an HF 4041 framing nailer for about 6 months or so. I used it
on a large deck and screened porch and it did fine. I will probably not
use it much but it comes in handy when I need it.
You can use Spotnails and other brand name nails or take some that come
with the gun from HF to a nailgun dealer or Home Depot and they can
match up the angle of the nail.
For occasional use mine has been great.
My only regret is not waiting for the lighter model to go on sale for
$79 and buying it. Mine is a bit heavy at around 10 lbs.
Is it really more convenient than a hammer (which again takes any
sized nail, is cheaper, and uses bulk nails)?
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Leon is usually right but I've seen him recommend this approach before and
have to disagree. I too have a palm nailer, its a real blessing when I need
to drive a 16d into an area I can't swing a framing hammer. To me, I love
the feeling of "slinging steens" and the hassle of a palm nailer to drive a
bunch of easily reached nails is not worth it.
Sure, lots of times. Toe-nailing with a hammer usually isn't much of a
chore unless you're in confined quarters. The main advantage of a
pneumatic framing nailer is speed. Does a palm nailer give you more
speed over a hammer? Does it let you put nails in places where you
can't swing a hammer? I've never used a palm nailer, so I guess I'd
like to hear why one would consider it over a framing nailer (where it
also has some advantages over a hammer).
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Hmm. Maybe it depends on how strong you are; I'm
on the small side. I always found, that a stud or
other other piece would move around, sometimes
moving into position, but most times off 1/8" or
so. Speed is not the problem, accurate assembly is.
For the home owner doing the occasional remodeling job, I think a palm
nailer is more useful, and safer, than a framing nailer. I'm
finishing off a portion of our basement for my wifes' stained glass
shop and had looked at framing nailers during the planning stages.
(every project deserves a new tool) I was quickly put off by their
weight, bulkiness, and specialized nails. Even storage would have been
a problem when the project was done. With a palm nailer, the compact
size has let me place nails in places I could not possibly swing a
hammer, and even in places I could not see. Since I use nails
infrequently, my hammering skills are a bit dull, resulting more than
a few bent nails. It is difficult to bend a nail with the palm nailer.
I find it to be faster than a hammer, though certainly slower than a
framing nailer. Most importantly, my palm nailer has a magnet that
holds the nail, freeing up a hand to hold the material being joined,
and guarantees no smashed fingers!
I like my Estwing nailer
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This puppy drove 12" ring-shank polebarn spikes into "ironwood"
(species unidentifed, but very hard) posts all day when I built a barn
for my dad, and is still pretty, without giving me tennis elbow.
It'll put in a 16d in one good swing- I bet that's at least as fast as
your palm nailer, and doesn't require a compressor.
So for occasional use? This is my vote- a hammer is more versitile,
it doesn't care if you set it in the dirt (even a Paslode doesn't
appreciate that much, then all that time you saved gets lost in
cleaning the gun in the field) and it rides on your belt. Add the
long handle on the Estwing and the ripping claw, and it's thing of
beauty- not only does it drive nails like a champ, but it can demo as
fast as a crowbar and a 3lb maul with a short handle.
And the #1 reason for hand nailing- especially for occasional DIY use,
(at least in my book) is that a hand nail and hammer will pull a frame
together a whole lot better than a gun. The nails are thicker and
have more holding power, and one guy (or two who are not pros) raising
a wall is likely to rack the frame at least a little and put a lot of
stress on the joints. With a nail gun, they just pull loose- with
hand spikes, they've got a lot more gumption.
I know it's a throwback attitude, but I build almost everything with a
hammer, and it is really just as fast as messing with compressors, air
lines, and boxes with goofy nails on coils or strips. Even after
using a nail gun fairly extensively for a while at work, I still
prefer the ring of a nicely struck nail, and happily drive spikes all
day with ol' reliable on my independant projects.
Though I will concede that roofing, trim and pin nailers are worth
their respective weights in gold. Hard to argue that after the first
time I laid hands on each of them.
Let me go a bit farther with this. I suggested a palm nailer over a framing
nailer for "occasional" use. If you are going to be driving lots of nails
on a regular basis the framing nailer is the way to go as you are probably
not going to buy more nails than you will ever need.
More convenient than a hammer? That's another question entirely and not
asked by the OP that I was responding to. That said however you will
probably finish a 50' fence faster and certainly be less tired when
More convenient than a hammer for 5 or 6 nails. NO. Hundreds? Absolutely.
The palm nailer also really shines when nailing joist hangers.
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