Bout a Porter Cable nailer from the great Home Depot. I asked for some
framing nails. The fellow give me a box of them and said this was what I
Well, I get back to the farm, some 80 miles away. Open up the owners manual
and it tells me to use 22 degree round head nails. I look at the box and it
is 30 degree full head nails.
Question, will it make any difference if I use the 30 degree or should I be
prepared to go back to Home Depot and give the manager a piece of my mind.
Some nailers can use several different types of nails, most can't. If
yours doesn't say it can use 30 degree nails, I wouldn't use them.
You have NOWHERE that sells (or can get) framing nails, less than 80
miles away? Maybe a rental house, farm supply, hardware store, or
local lumber yard? 22 degree framing nails aren't exactly space
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I'm frew fo da day. After steaming for awhile I had the same idee. Now, 3.5
six packs later, I'm callin it a day. I'll git the damn nails tommorie.
Thinks for y'alls hep.
An yea I tipe better'n I spill, sepll, aw hell you know what I meen.
When you go back to the store, calmly ask the store manager to pay for
your gas. He'll say no, then ask him if he takes responsibility for
he hires or is he just as ignorant as the people he hires. If his
cost you that much money for their mistakes why should you pay for
If it's just human error,, remember it's his humans not yours. And if
like the idea, tell him what your time is worth. If he still refuses
to make it up
to you, don't accidentally trip into a display that could break on the
After all it's only human error.
AMEN, Mike. No shit. That has ALWAYS been my experience in working
with vendors, employees, clients.... pretty much everyone. The more
intolerant, self righteous and indignant they get about someone else's
mistakes, the easier they are on themselves.
At least we didn't have to read the patented, copyrighted, "pimple
faced kid" story in that load of crap. He could have told a great
story of how he planned to humiliate and embarass some kid in an entry
I'll take that bet anytime, anywhere. You're not worth a damn if you
don't hold yourself to a high
standard. The same goes for all of your crew, employee's even family.
I don't make stupid mistakes
that cost others that I'm not willing to take responsibility for and I
don't let other walk away
from it either. If you're not willing to take responsibility for what
you do then you should sit at home.
Calm down everybody, I've solved the problem. Just before I called it a day
yesterday, and after the 3.5 sixpacks of Bud, I thought to myself, this is
not a problem. So, I loaded up the 30 degree nails into the 22 degree nail
gun, tilted the nail gun an additional 8 degrees and everything went fine.
PS: Don't try this at home, especially when sober.
RIGHT, HE SAID "ROUND" AND "FULL" (op)
And, if you have to drive 80 miles to find a Home Depot to save a few
bucks, you need be prepared to read the box and manual/instructions
With what they pay HD/Lowes employees, expecting English Comprehension
is going a bit far!
In my experience the three words they find most difficult to express
are: 1. I, 2. Don't, 3. Know. A close second are the next four 1. But,
2. I'll, 3. Find, 4. Out (pardon me for counting contractions as a
I've had these guys go on for several minutes talking around the point
in response to a simple direct question.
But blaming them for selling you the wrong box of clearly-marked nails
is a stretch.
As someone else suggested, visit a nai/nail-gun distributor if you
need expert advice and intend to rely upon the information offered by
the employees. You will also be doing a solid for American Small
Can't comment on Lowes, but can on H/D since I have a friend who works
Things have certainly changed since the founders sold H/D.
Gone are the days when employees were considered assets,
Today, employees are treated as a disposable resource.
The result is a basic 8-5 attitude.
H/D is reaping what they sew.
It is a place I wouldn't want to work.
Having been in the big corporate world, let me explain it to you. I can hire
a high school drop out for 5.50 an hour. They'll work pretty hard looking
for raises. So, I give them three bumps over the course of maybe 18 months.
By that time they have reached their comfort level and we're not going to
get any more out of them. So, it's much cheaper to let them go and start
over again with a new high school drop out. Now, I was with a very large
nationwide insurance company and that's how we did it so you can imagaine
how a lumber yard would do it.
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