I'm ready to order a HF DC, but now I see that they have at least 4
different models, from $99 dollars up...
I WAS going to order this one
which seems to be the normal HF 2 hp $159 model that I had posted
questions about, priced at $149
It looks like I would need this accessory kit, at a minimum, to get
which adds another $39
Then, I saw this one
which though only having 1 hp seems to be a better filtering machine
and though higher priced, seems to come (I downloaded both manuals)
with a Y and at least one hose..
I'd like to order one of these today or tonight, so any help clearing
my confusion is appreciated..
ALSO.. HF doesn't seem to carry anything like a cyclone unit, except
for a 5 gallon one with 2 1/2" fittings.. any suggestions on where to
look for either a unit to buy or parts to build one?
Wait! That HF dust collector has a 30 micron bag which means all the
fine dust will be spewing back into your shop.
(watch the wrap)
this is a little more expensive, but has a 1 micron bag. I bought this
machine a few years bag with a 3 micron bag and it works very well. I
think you will be disappointed with 30 micron filtration.
There are many other models/manufacturers, but whatever you choose, get
a good set of bags.
I just looked at it... $240 plus shipping...
and it looks like over kill for my 2 car garage...
the 1 hp one at HF for $190 with free shipping has:
"Y" inlet with 4'' connectors handles two machines
Super-high 1 micron filtration
VU-THRU filter bags
Lower: PE bag, 17 gallons
Upper: 1 micron bag, 19 gallons
this looks like a lot of machine for the money...
=============I have had a Griz 1029 for years...
and it is NOT overkill...
In fact it is marginal ...honestly anything less is a total waste
It keeps my shop a little cleaner and that was why I purchased
it...NOT for health reasons... IF you are concerned with health my
"Marginal" comment would change to USELESS...
well, that's good to hear!
Another idea I'm stealing from Ken is a sanding box.. that should held
some with the little stuff.. and the swamp cooler seems to get that
out of the air pretty fast..
hmm... it sounds like the way to go for a beginner is the $150 one
with the $40 hose kit...
The $190 one has most of the stuff in the kit and is 1 micron, but
them we gat back to that 1 hp thing instead of 2hp and 30 microns..
I should have just bought the sucker last month before I knew what the
hell a micron was!! *g*
My toughts were to buy the bigger 2HP HF collector, then if I did not like
the bags, replace them with any of the various .5 or1 micron bags available.
I have not seen the need to upgrade the bags.
I think you will be much more pleased with the 2 HP model over the 1 HP
model. I looked at the 1 HP model, and decided it was too small. Plus even
if you upgrade the bags, the 2 HP is still a good deal.
Also, I have not bought any blaste gates, dust collector tuning, whatever o
build a collection system. I park my TS, jointer, router table, and planer
close enough togather so I just move the hose from one machine to the other
as needed. There is a friction fit hose end that mates with the typical dust
collector adaptors that mount to your machines.
This fits on your hose,
and mates with these,
(Amazon.com product link shortened)00308848/br=1-15/ref=br_lf_hi_15//103-9710276-0606224?v=glance&s=hi&nU2654
I have been tempted to buy another hose, but I guess I am not pressed hard
enough for time so moving the hose does not bother me. Sometime I may get
something permant set up with ridgid tubing and some short hoses to the
machines, but for now its good enough!
well, it got solved tonight...
I was filling the wife in on all the stuff I learned and the trouble
that I was having deciding, and she said "go for the 2hp, you can add
bags and stuff cheaper than you can add horsepower"
She's actually got more experience with this kind of stuff than I do,
(she used to own a sharpening business), so I'll order the 2 hp DC and
the startup kit... and hopefully be ready to assemble it and get it
working when it gets here..
Thanks to all that informed, confused and guided me... I know I'll
have a shitload of questions when I get it set up..
NOW.. the filtration system and the sanding box, once I finish the
project that's scattered all over the shop, waiting for assembly
Does anyone actually trust HARBOR FREIGHT performance ratings? <G>
Has anyone actually verified any of the imported dust collector
claims? Would we know a 1 micron bag from a 30 micron bag by sight?
You can easily tell a small micron bag - they are thicker and felt-like
and will stand up on their own with no support. At least the ones I
My BIY has a Delta dust collector with a 30 micron bag. When his
collector is running and the sun is streaming into his shop through a
window, it is unbelievable what you see escaping into the air.
Now I'm sure this is true of smaller micron bags as well, but if you
are trying to save a few bucks on bags, think of your lungs first, then
amortize the $50 extra over the next (say) 10+ years. The cost is
In addition, it is good to wear a dust mask too.
No DC will get everything - but every shop should have a decent one one.
Details, please? I may want to "borrow" some ideas. ;-)
I have a "one stage" furnace-fan sanding table that uses just the standard
flat filters. I'm thinking about modifying it to have a 2nd stage that uses
automobile air filters to help get rid of the smaller dust particles.
I am almost embarassed to show mine!
I do HVAC work for a living. A couple of years back I replaced a furnace for
someone, broght the old one home and cut the upper 1/2 of the funace off,
leaving just the blower section. Next day after work I bent up some sheet
metal to build a filter rack for it. It uses two 20"x20"x2" pleated paper
air filters, back to back. When the outer one gets dirty I toss it, move the
inner one out, with a new filter behind it. It has a three speed fan, but I
put a three position, center off toggle switch on it, hi and low speeds
Total cost, zip, nadda, nothing, 'cept for the filters. Even the switch was
one that I scrounged off something years earlier and had been residing in a
Sorry, the whole aparatus has zero wood working content, as far as building
it, just metal!
Now the na-sayers will be screaming that it don't get the sub-micron dust
that will kill you in the long run. Well I donno. After all I used NOTHING
before, other than the snot in my nose which used to get thick and dirty,
but not comes out nice and clean and pristine. With it running I don't see
any tiny floaters in the sun light, unless I have been sanding, which I have
no means of collecting at this point, but after 15-20 minutes of running the
filter on high, the air is clean again.
I ingest more dust on construction sites daily than I will ever ingest in my
I do similar, except I still have the original filers. ;-)
You're singing my song! I love making useful thing from what other people
have already tossed.
Sorry, I don't agree. ;-) It supports your "habit", therefore it's 100%
I have lots of relatives who lived to 99 to 103 years old, but no one
(AFAIK) has made it beyond that. Since I'm 45 and have the habits of some
of my ancestors (smoking, drinking, ...) I figure on annoying the succeeding
generations for at least another 35 years. ;-) Based on my research not
breathing the small dust particles is a plus, and I intend on doing so. ;-)
I suggest you also get rid of the "floaters."
Encouraged by the success of all the handypersons out there, building their
own dust filters, I took a leap of faith Thursday. The HVAC guy was
replacing the heater at my son's apartment on the next block, and gave me
the functioning blower and motor, and instructions on how to wire it up.
I spent thirty minutes or so, just cleaning the grunge out of everywhere,
and wiping out the accumulation of dirty crud, and then wired it up,
EXACTLY as the nice fellow said, and proceeded to let all the magic smoke
out of the motor.
Walking around the block with the beast, still smoking, I tossed it onto
his truck, having lost all interest for the day.
Maybe another time.
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