Festool power tools.

Why would one buy a DeWalt over a Kawasaki or Wagner, or Harbor Freight cordless drill to do the same job?

Two times!

pretty much. like pioneer or sony can be added to the list.

I don't know about the sound levels of dust collectors. (if i had a permanent shop, the collector would be outside and noise not an issue). BUT, i can assure you that copper is copper and no amount of money spent on a name brand cable will change the sound coming out of a speaker.

any tool will do that. Electric items are not nearly as sensitive to water as people would like to think. My dewalts (and my cheap skil circ saw) have spent many a rain storm in the back of the truck.

On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 09:29:19 -0600, Steve Barker

I'm not so sure about that. I think I remember reading somewhere that electrons travel on the outside surface of wire. In that case, there would be more outside surfaces on stranded wire than there would be on solid wire. More surfaces to travel means better conduction and that means better sound.

A man who has never driven a Bugatti, or owned a Festool, is a man who unarguably has no frame of reference whatsoever to make a distinction.

... particularly obvious when he mentions Pioneer or Sony in the same breath. :)

Not in a human-audible region frequency region, no...

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what you heard about stranded wire and electrons is correct. I wasn't suggesting using romex for speakers (although i doubt a difference could be detected) but 18, 16, or 14 ga. zip cord from the hardware store is just as finely stranded as any hi dollar cable and will do just fine.

Well, that's accomodated by the number of strands and size/strand in stranded vs solid wire of same gauge...

At human-audible frequencies, there simply isn't any signal distortion of a measurable magnitude that could be discerned audibly.

Sure it will, particularly, as with most "brand name" audio cabling, when gauge and length of run are taken into consideration and matched to the components ... something not necessarily taken into account with cheaper speaker wire.

That is an inarguable, scientific fact.

Only extreme arrogance would automatically assume that since they can't hear the difference, others can't.

Ahh, but "human audible" frequencies are only part of the story.

It is well known that _third order harmonics_, well above "human audible" frequencies, do color the sound within the human audible frequencies.

AAMOF, a trained listener, like a recording engineer, relies on these third order harmonics to make a distinction between good sound and excellent sound.

(It's one of the reasons why us old fart recording engineers, like Bruce Swedien who did most of Michael Jackson's and Barbara Streisand's work, among others, can still record and mix with the best at an advanced age.

... that is, we could before the Nyquist frequency limits of digital sampling rates robbed us of anything above half the sampling frequency. :(

scott

I call bologny.

There is no measurable electrical difference (unless the cables are designed to alter the sound via added passive (RC) circuitry, in which case you're hearing sound that has been degraded by the cables which confirmation bias makes you think "sounds better").

scott

In order to say that you must make a distinction in cable composition, cable thickness, length of run, and possible need for shielding, otherwise you are indeed spouting "bologny" (sic).

Leon wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

The lights, man, the lights! One of the new DeWalt impact drives had 3, 3! LEDs. That's reason enough to buy the whole line, man!

:-)

Puckdropper

Dave, True for frequencies much, much higher than audio. Kerry

Do you regard that as a rigorous argument? Supportive data would make all the difference.

If they're a measurable component, it's because they've been generated somewhere else than in the cable, though, and modulated into the human range of hearing.

The cable by and of itself, won't be doing that.

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