On 3/17/2014 7:00 PM, email@example.com wrote:
You have to remember that Jet does more than just woodworking. They have
large machines for metal and these are their market lines:
WAREHOUSE & DOCK
Gosh, with all of that on their plate, going after SawStop must seem
akin to going after Intel with hopes of a competitive microprocessor design.
The company that bought Delta seems to like to make miter saws. The
world can' have too many of those! ; )
I was being sarcastic. I don't think we need more miter saws in the
In an article, the company explicitly mentioned room for expansion in
that area of their specialization.
It didn't say anything about table saws.
Nothing new about ugly tools. Look at the market for garish tools that
attract new or uninformed woodworkers. It's like rats drawn to peanut
butter. Look at the Hitachi tools that resemble transmogrified running
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 19:00:01 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
But, wouldn't you agree that their prime motive usually is profit?
And, that is frequently consolidation and/or efficiency improvements
of some type aka cutbacks.
But, as you say, the article gives limited information.
But when a private equity company takes a company private, they do
it as a LBO - they create massive debt to pay the current shareholders.
Then they rake off the cream, and after a while, they re-IPO (or
shutdown) the company that they took private. The newly public
company is saddled with tremendous debt that the private equity
company never actually paid off, and often forces the new
company into bankruptcy after a period of time, when they can't
pay off the debt. (And the cost to service the debt directly impacts
the cash flow, reducing R&D opportunities. It's a downward spiral).
That may be good for the private equity company, but is not so good
for the employees or customers of the firm that they took private.
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 00:13:36 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
No, but you two certainly are. You're stupid enough to make four
run-of-the-mill lefties, like Biden.
Q: Why do you lefties hate being called what you are? It's not the
name that you should be embarrassed about.
On 3/17/2014 11:07 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Isn't that the primary motive for any business?
We seem to have evolved into a way of thinking that businesses exist to
serve some philanthropic purpose and provide employment and benefits
irregardless of anything else rather than that those are simply side
products of the operation of a business.
One thing I've noticed that happened clear back when or shortly after
P-C bought Delta is that they quite buying advertising in FWW. One
would think that would be a prime place to try to sell higher-priced ww
gear but I guess they thought the high cost of the space doesn't bring
Hadn't really thought about if for a while, I just looked; I don't see
any at all in the last several issues, either. PM is still there w/ a
full-page spread or one of the inside covers every issue, however, as
well as Jet. But, it's clear the printed copy is waning with emphasis
shifting to electronic--it's not what it was even a few years ago.
You're right of course. I guess it's just the expectation or maybe
just the want to see some sense of altruism from the people and
businesses that exist in our society. But then, maybe I'm just too
much of a lefty as krw frequently reminds me. :)
On 3/19/2014 12:20 AM, email@example.com wrote:
I'm in the same camp as you. I expect people to have a quality product
and want to sell it to make money. I think people who want to make money
and sell shit as gold are themselves shit.
So I must be a lefty. My dad owned a business. He always said I'd rather
have a hundred small customers who appreciate my work, than one or two
big customers who ruled me. If one goes away, you are screwed.
So pricing your work is important, trying not to rape people is
important. Doing quality work is important. There are a lot of
businesses out there that don't abide by this. They are out there to
rape the customer.. I choose to rake them over the coals for their poor
I guess I'm a lefty too.
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