I was watching Mr Marks turn a vessel the other day on a lathe that
looks as though it is big enough to turn the main shaft for the
Titanic. Where does he get these giantic tools like the jointer wide
enough to do an entry door?
This website has an episode guide for Norm and the tools he uses I was
wondering if anyone did something similar for Woodworks?
Curious newbie who can't afford what either of them have.
Mr Marks is an interesting guy. I only recently began to watch him. My
cable company finally picked him up. He is half artist and half woodworker.
His tools seem to be half exotic and half recycled old iron. He has a small
oldtimer lathe that he learned on that he still uses. He keeps the old ones
around for sentimental reasons.
The lathe you saw was a Oneway lathe. See them at
They are a high end, big buck, industrial kind of lathe. Not many little
guys can afford (or house) such a monster. But they are well engineered and
Mon, Sep 18, 2006, 10:09am firstname.lastname@example.org
(Lee Michaels) doth sayeth:
<snip> They are a high end, big buck, industrial kind of lathe. Not many
little guys can afford (or house) such a monster. But they are well
engineered and purty!
There is a however, as always. The however is, people have made
their own versions, for a lot less, and even larger. Somewhere around
here I've got enough info on how it has been done (on hard copy) to make
your own. I've got plans around for a wood lathe, that can basically be
made about any length you reasonably want, say 6-8 feet between centers.
The metal ones are really hevy duty, including on that a guy turns bowls
and stuff up to about 6 foot thru. Depending on what you're after one
could include a car/truck axle, possibly one, or more, car/truck
transmissions. If they're not heavy enough, some have hollow legs, so
they can be weighted down - even more - with sand, lead, whatever. You
might want to have a real strong floor too. I haven't pursued any of
this because, for now, my HF lathe answers all my needs. I would
imagine some of this stuff is somewhere on the web.
I am not paranoid. I do not "think" people are after me. I "know" damn
well they're after me.
You mean the joiner that doubles as the flight deck for an aircraft carrier?
David does an show where he walks you thru the shop and talks about the
BTW, you can watch him on the web at:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:43:26 GMT, Jesse R Strawbridge
Isn't that a Northfield jointer?
Let's think about it - how many hobbyists need or could use such a
machine? Or even have a place to put one? My DJ-20 is as big (and as
expensive) as I can have, for many reasons. My opinion is that that's
likey true for most other hobbyists too. Pros on the other hand, may
have the need and business justification for such equipment.
A cabinet making buddy of mine has a 12" jointer in his shop. Picked it up
in an auction for $600. Some things really suck.
My problem is too many tools for tha space I have, and needing to roll a
bunch of stuff to the driveway, in order to make something...
I got a pretty sweet deal on a completely rebuilt, 50+ yr old Delta
Milwaukee last spring. 8" wide, long bed, relatively quiet. Sees not too
much use, though. A buddy of mine may buy it next month.
See, there is more crunch in space in the shop, than in space in the
wallet, most months. Tools should be appreciated, used. And my lathe is
getting a lost of the attention these days...
Norm has his share of "exotic" tools too. Like that machine for
making mouldings. Or the big thickness sander. Just to name two off
the top of my head.
I think Norm's projects are more accessible to the average woodworker.
Many of David's are lot more involved. Lots of steps to take before
being able to make the object. Setups, templates and so on. And even
then, the shows of several of his project don't give enough info to
make a duplicate yourself. And there's no plans available either. If
you're determined to make one of those, better get out the drafting
board or cad program and work out what's missing for yourself. And
even then it won't be exactly like what was shown in his program.
David and Norm approach woodworking a bit differently, which helps to
understand how each develop their projects. Norm was a construction
site carpenter first, who learned the practical methods of building
furniture. He uses brads profusely, but his projects are easily
understood if not doable in a weekend (tell me that the Mahogany
Victorian dining room table he just built takes 20 hours :). David on
the other hand was schooled in fine arts and learned from "fine arts"
craftsman. Norm was mostly self taught. Both are very talented in
their own rights and I would never say one is Better than the other.
They are different is all.
I've met David a few times and have taken a class from him. He's a
very practical woodworker actually. His tools were mostly acquired for
a reasonable amount, and a fair bit of elbow grease :) The jointer is
an excellent example as is his 20" Delta / Milwaukee bandsaw. The
Oneway is definetly high end, but was purchased for large outboard
turnings (big bowls and those circular plaques he makes).
One other thing, a number of David's project plans are available for
purchase from his website (www.djmarks.com). Every one of them was
completed by David in less than 60 hours. It was done this way to
ensure that they all fit within the networks tight scheduling for
shooting the show. Not saying that an "average woodworker" would be
able to complete one in the same amount of time, but that they aren't
as unreasonable as one may think.
I don't think *any* of his stuff is unreasonable, or undoable, it's
just that there's plenty of projects, like the elliptical mirror or
that koa floor lamp that don't have plans available and important
dimensions are not given during the show for them.
Plus, as in the case of the floor lamp, he only says that the
alabaster lamp shade is available from any number of sources. Huh?
Where? I tried to find one and didn't. So I didn't even try to work
out the missing dimensions on that one. Without a shade that looks
like the one in the episode, I'd be disappointed in the result.
I'm in the process of working out the elliptical mirror, but again,
important dimensions are not given and there's no plan. This one is
somewhat simpler in that I only have to draw something that looks
Norm will name a source for project parts. That's useful. There may
be other sources too. At least having one source means I can make my
own copy for myself.
Please post the URL to get Mr. Mark's plan for the sculpted elliptical
mirror and the bent laminate lamp.
I didn't say that there were no plans available at all. What I said
"the shows of several of his projects don't give enough info to make a
duplicate yourself. And there's no plans available either. If you're
determined to make one of those, better get out the drafting
board or cad program and work out what's missing for yourself. And
even then it won't be exactly like what was shown in his program."
Of course I could be wrong.
I think a lot of time has passed from those last 3 seasons. Surely
there's been enough time to have drawn up a plan. However, I know Mr.
Marks is a very busy man and if he's the one that creates the drawings
that's probably why there are no plans for some projects. If that's
the case, he could hire someone like me to make the drawings for him.
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