I'll be putting together a kitchen in the next few months and I'm building
the cabinets myself. The problem that I have come across is that the other
hald has found the style in a store that she likes and I don't know how to
duplicate that in my shop. I've included a link:
This is just an example, but you can see how complex the rails and stiles
are. How does one do this? I would imagine a molder is used with custom
knives, but that's gonna cost and what's the limit on the size of those
Actually, the door parts look pretty simple to me. I think
you could use a router table and some bits of your choice
along both sides of the door stock, then miter the corners.
How you hold those corners together is important. Although
I generally us cope/stick door construction, I have done
mitered doors when I wanted a bead detail around the door.
I used biscuits, but you could use splines, dowels etc.
Of course, you have to raise the panels for those doors,
so you'll need an appropriate bit for that too.
I would think of doing this in many pieces, not just machining one
piece. Maybe make the mitered frame and attach various moldings to
reach the profile you are looking for, all mitered at the corners. The
convex piece could be cut length-wise from a large dowel, etc.
By indicating that the shaper, the bits, the electrician and the
woodworking class will add $4000 to the cost of the kitchen?
There's no shame in telling SWMBO that, as much as you'd like to be able
to, there are some things you don't know how to build in the shop. Yet.
I think I'd cross-reference door styles she likes to cutter sets available
from CMT, Whiteside, Freud, etc.
Possibly what you are seeking is a set of cabinetry bits (stile, rail, raised panel) which can be purchased at Home Depot or ordered from Freud. The "raised convex center" is probably produced by the bits given a "classic" form - sometimes referred to as "Roman Ogee". I just bought a set of these by Freud. They do a wonderful job.
| >> I'll be putting together a kitchen in the next few months and I'm
| >> building
| >> the cabinets myself. The problem that I have come across is that the
| >> other
| >> hald has found the style in a store that she likes and I don't know how
| >> to
| >> duplicate that in my shop. I've included a link:
| >> http://www.thomasvillecabinetry.com/Products/product.asp?DSFRID=334&bhcp=1
| >> This is just an example, but you can see how complex the rails and stiles
| >> are. How does one do this? I would imagine a molder is used with custom
| >> knives, but that's gonna cost and what's the limit on the size of those
| >> knives.
| >> Any ideas?
I can't tell exactly from the picture, but the doors look like raised
panels with molded rails & stiles. This you can do with a number of
door making router sets from the likes of CMT, Freud, etc. If you don't
have one, you'll need a router table with a variable speed router to
Additionally (again, I can't see all the details) there may be some
applied moldings along the inside of the rails and stiles. This isn't
complicated, just another step.
There're a couple of ways to come at this:  Build rails and
stiles up from (routed) strips;  have the rail/stile stock cut
for you on a molder; and  make a DXF drawing file of the
profile you want and have rail/stile stock cut for you on a CNC
router. This last approach may be least expensive, since your
drawing file eliminates the need to have custom knives ground.
Actually you'd be surprised. The number of passes a CNC
would have to take to make the profile would drive the cost
To the OP, the doors have mitered corners. You'll have to
have strips run of the profile. A local shop with a molder
can do this for you.
Or, you could buy your doors ready made.
It depends on the shop - in my case I can clamp up to 80' of 1x4
stock at a time; and the number of bit changes required might be
more significant than the number of passes because I don't have
any qualms about letting my machine work in the dark.
It hardly ever hurts to take time to get a price. Sometimes the
surprise is a happy one. (-:
This is clearly a "New Project, New Tools" project, the rec. speaks. If it
were me I'd go down and buy the smallest replacement door in the
cheapest wood and figure out the construction. Then, referring to "The
Rule" I'd tell the SO that in order to "SAVE" all that money on cabinets I
need "$xxx" for a new router and table plus a few router bits, maybe a
biscuit cutter and a jointer and a planner and aaaaaa, well, you surely
get my drift... Heck, look at all the money the SO will save!!! And can you
just imagine how nice the shop, oops, kitchen will look when it's done!
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 00:45:35 GMT, the inscrutable "Joe C."
Only if HE is the normal cleaner and duster in the kitchen. I rather
doubt that, though there has been one pro chef here on the Wreck.
I do my own cleaning/dusting since I'm single, but I'm in the vast,
vast (or izzat half-vast?) minority.
The clear and present danger of top-posting explored at:
Thanks to everybody for the miriad of opinions.
I would use the opportunity to purchase more tools, but (Gasp), I have a
good working set and need to actually start producing something with them.
The deal with the wife was the only ay I could "Build" the kitchen was if I
can make it look like the ones she wants from the store. I appreciate the
simple Cherry rail and stile, while she hates grain and simplicity, etc.
I think I'll take the approach that most of us would do. Build the boxes
and face frames and finish everything and worry about the doors later. :)
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