Are most woodworkers artists or engineers, or neither, or both?
For the sake of narrowing the field, feel free to assume the population of
More than ever, I keep getting inclinations that I should be drawing and
I think I can draw better than people who can't. ; ) My dad was a civil
who made copious plans for "everything". His buddy was a civil engineer
made projects (mostly "rustic stuff") by the seat of this pants!
I may try SketchUp (motivated by the recent "How To Design Furniture"
by Taunton Press). I didn't think the 4-page introduction to the software
was detailed enough--but it was nice to learn about the (free) software. I
may give it a
try it in a few minutes...just to see whether it may be worthwhile for me.
hardly wait <gulp>! ; )
Bill if you would like to see what you can do with Sketchup I can send you a
file of the bedroom furniture towers that I designed and posted pictures of
I have had formal drafting instruction when drawings were only done on a
drawing board. I never perused that profession but kept an interest in it
to help with my building projects. I have been using a CAD program of some
type since 1986. Up until last year I had used AutoCAD LT since 1997.
Sketchup is it for me now and I will probably never go back to the more
expensive CAD programs.
The investment to learn Sketchup is well worth your time and that time will
be less if you have any drafting back ground. Suddenly with Sketchup you
can draw in perspective 3D with very little effort with or with out CAD
One thing that is critical to remember is that you want to draw all of your
3D parts separately and then convert them into components. If you simply
draw lines and connect them they are very difficult to separate. If the
part you draw is a component you can easily move it and assemble your
project much like an erector set.
There are a few of us here that will be glad to help you with any questions
that you may have about Sketchup.
Basically for wood working this is going to be the easiest and most
competent program to design your projects.
Way cool program.
I posted my first result with SketchUp at
alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking, as Subject: First SketchUp (pdf file),
in case anyone wants to see what you can do with it in an hour or so...
I have a LOT to learn, but the potential is evident...
> pdf attached
<also posted on abpw>
Excellent first effort ... take to heart what Leon said on the wRec
about making component parts ... the secret to using SU effectively for
With regard to whether your proclivity is "artist" or "engineer",
oftentimes you have no choice.
Attached is a pdf of the SketchUp file I did last year during the
planning stages of the South wall of a kitchen, and a photo of that
recently finished South wall, 8 months later.
A good illustration of what you can do with the free program,
particularly when you have a client involved in the design and they
actually end up getting what they saw during the planning stage.
Makes for a happy client, and good referrals ....
Hell, if you want, I'll send you the entire kitchen SketchUp file ... it
is about 4.4MB, a heavy lift for many mail servers.
I also posted links in the past to some "dynamic component", kitchen
wall and base cabinets that you can change the dimensions of ... real
handy when fitting cabinets into a pre-existing space. I'll cehck my
server to see if they're still on line.
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:13:18 -0500, the infamous Swingman
Cool. Question: Is there lighting above the hutch and oven cabinets?
Else why is there a gap there. It looks really odd to me.
Ever wish you'd gone with fumed QS white oak instead? That's the
kitchen which would make me drool. It's only "very nice" as is.
Indeed. Nice segue to reality there, pard.
"Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free
than Christianity has made them good." --H. L. Mencken
I added "materials" today... light wood finish. Neat-o! Later I went to
it's "3-D Warehouse" to see if there
was a vise.... Let's just say lots of folks got there before me. Pretty
http://sketchup.google.com if you haven't tried it yet. Start by watching
some tutorials. It's a cools video game...I haven't yet figured out how to
position the chair I downloaded (it's seems to want to live at the origin)
Typically when you download a file it simply follows your cursor around
until you click some where on the screen, then you can move it to where ever
you want. If it seems to want to be some where in particular it could be
that it has a Google Earth location. That may want to place it in a
specific location. I'm guessing here. Try down loading something else.
I downloaded the videos that Google puts out at
http://sketchup.google.com/training/videos.html I found them invaluable
in introducing me to some of the power of the program.
As Leon and Swingman pointed out, one of the most important early tricks
is to make components early and often. It saves a ton of time later on
down the road.
If you make things that work - and don't worry about
what it looks like - you're probably an engineer.
If you make things that look pleasing to the eye
or hand - but it doesn't actually "do" anything
- you're probably and artist.
If you THINK you make things that work
THINK you make things that are pleasing
to the eye
neither of which may actually be true
- you're probably an architect.
Fortunately, somewhere, there's a craftsman
who can add or fix what each of the others
overlooked - or ignored.
Strange, I just looked up my privacy settings and everyone should be
able to see me. And I am the only Luigi Zanasi on FB, "Luigi Dena
Ch'ŏ Zanasi", which also includes my Kaska First Nations Name, given
to me by an elder a few months ago.
I do have two other former? wreckers as friends (O'Deen & Groggy).
Reminds me of the difference between engineers, salesmen and
An engineer is a person who knows a great deal about very
little, learning more and more about less and less until
they finally know practically everything about nothing.
A salesman, on the other hand, is a person who knows very
little about many things, and keeps learning less and less
about more and more until they know practically nothing
A purchasing agent starts out knowing everything about
everything, but ends up knowing nothing about anything due
to his association with engineers and salesman.
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