I know it is up to code, but it is not standard. The flexibility of
romex in conduit is ridiculous. It just doesn't make the turns real
well. Have plenty of lube on hand and a helper.
Romex is for installations outside conduit. It doesn't make sense to use
this type of wire in a conduit.
On 12/1/2010 6:11 PM, email@example.com wrote:
If you're pulling it around corners in a chase then you should turn the
chase into a conduit and use separate conductors. But it makes plenty
of sense to use an EMT chase if the code requires that there be no
exposed wiring in a particular area and you have a straight shot from
where you need a fixture to a location where exposed wiring is OK--then
you just run a straight piece of Romex through a chase to wherever you
need the receptacle or switch or whatever.
Well - holes in floor joists are condidered a chase, so it's not really safe
to say that if you're pulling around corners in a chase you should use
conduit. It's better to just stick with one kind of wiring as much as
possible. If conduit proves to be the best solution for the most of the
run, then go with it all the way on that circuit. In Bill's case - from the
switchbox throughout the lighting run - or at least to a minimum number of
J-boxes in which to switch over to NM, assuming the required protection for
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 07:54:13 -0500, tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com>
When Dad, an electrician, had to do it he pulled the wire through the
conduit before installing it - goes through the bends and LBs a lot
easier that way. Using stranded wire involves junction boxes and
joints when transitioning from "protected by conduit" to "not
requiring protection" or "protected by existing structure"
You are quite correct in that, but it's not a big deal to hang the boxes and
tie in inside them. Using THHN offers many advantages over pulling NM
through conduit, and makes the transition matter of little real value.
If you use Lew's lighting density, you won't have money for the extra
romex OR this fishing kit, will ya?
Here I am, slaving over ways to save you some money and this is what I
get for my long and strenuous efforts? ;)
Happiness is not a station you arrive at, but a manner of traveling.
-- Margaret Lee Runbeck
I woke up this morning and realized my vision had been modified this
week. Thank you for your efforts to help me get it right and save me
money, and uh, uh, time! : ) The external wiremold cabling as has
been suggested would probably simplify my installation considerably too!
Thanks! I'm not even sure how it would look across my aging imitation
stucco'd ceiling. BTW, at this point, no bevel is evident; it was nice
of you to remember though. ;)
Here's the idea I came up with during lunch.
Think of the shop in thirds: Left End/ Middle / Right End(door).
I think I'd usually want light on the Left End, near the benches,
anytime I was in the shop, and the rest too if I was using the TS or
other power tools in the middle or doing anything near the door.
Anything less could create a hazard (for the pedestrian).
So, I could use my new already installed "master light switch" to
control all of the lighting and then think figure out how to add a new
switch for the latter 2/3 of the lights. The latter switch would also be
dependent, of course, on the master switch.
The "master light switch" is right next to the door, so it is just where
one would want it.
I still have my existing two fluorescent fixtures, powered by a separate
electrical panel, as back-up for some types of emergencies.
Task lighting, extra!
EMT and surface boxes get the job done, and are not too spendy. Added
plus - rodents can't chew those wires. I've come to a new appreciation
of the "Chicago code" approach (EVERYTHING in conduit, which may or may
not be _actual_ Chicago code) after finding some of the things mice have
chewed over the years. Having been raised in a state where it's still
legal (and certainly was very common) to simply staple romex (exposed)
in accessory buildings (barns, garages, shops) that's a major shift in
my thinking. Realizing that the fire department is mostly only able to
keep fires from spreading to other buildings by the time they arrive has
impacted that thought process.
Does mean I have a pile of plastic romex-only boxes I'm not going to
use, probably, but there you go.
Your comments on EMT are well-taken. Sounds like a smart approach.
It's time for me to draw a new model.
I have a small black "shop mole" I run into from time to time. I
wondered what he was doing for food. I learned he evidentally ate a 5
pound bag of dog biscuits last winter, all through a hole no larger than
a nickle near the bottom. My wife said she isn't going to feed him this
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