Way to go den ...

[Andy Hall]

There are always exceptions and they atract publicity. However, I don't believe that this is the general case. It doesn't match human nature or that of the rest of the animal kingdom.

[Andy Burns]

I know we're all supposed to be animal mad in this country, but I wouldn't want to see anyone mown down by a speeding pet ambulance

be fair it doesn't have blues'n'twos, it just cropped up on the local TV news, I hope the drivers don't get delusions of grandeur ...

[Andy Burns]

He also had the good sense (or training) to throw his back and bergen over it, rather than his front.

Indeed.

[The Medway Handyman]

The Police certainly didn't comsider it to be the drivers fault.

Of course Dennis knows more about this sort of thing than a traffic cop would, even though he wasn't there...

[The Medway Handyman]

Ok then Dennis, educate us all and tell us exactly what a paramedic is compared to an EMT - don't forget there are three grades of EMT and two grades of paramedic within LAS.

We are waiting your words of wisdom.......

No such thing.

They wouldn't, they don't exist. You might mean EMT's who are fully trained in dealing with cardiac arrest.

You really don't have a clue you f****it do you? You clearly have no idea just how well trained these people are.

That would be the London Ambulance Service NHS Trust, the largest free ambulance service in the world with 839 paramedics and 1,593 EMT's and 950 vehicles spread over 70 ambulance stations?

I'm sure they will get the hang of things one day...

[dennis]

Yes! Any driver that deliberately drives his vehicle in a way that causes it to strike an object that is already in his path must be at fault. This is what was said happened. Now explain to me how it wasn't the drivers fault!! I suppose if it had been a tree it wouldn't have been the drivers fault either!

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[dennis]

Well its obvious that Andy shouldn't drive, maybe that's his secret?

[dennis]

The more you say the more I think you are brain damaged. Try harming someone's child and see if they are prepared to put themselves in danger to protect them. In fact see if most people won't put themselves in danger to protect them.

Just because you are a selfish bastard doesn't mean its the general state of the population.

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[dennis]

You described it, if it was as you described it it was careless driving if not dangerous driving.

If the police turned a blind eye then they had better hope the owner doesn't complain.

[dennis]

*You* said they couldn't administer the required drugs. Now sod off I cant cope with someone as stupid as you!

[Andy Hall]

You didn't answer the earlier question. You're driving along a road at less than the speed limit and a dog steps out 2m in front of you. Inevitably you will hit it. When you got to the dog it was already in your path.

Would you consider that to be your fault?

[Andy Hall]

Starting from your position, that is not a reliable call. Nonetheless........

Different situation. I was referring to self preservation among peers.

It's pretty obvious from the mammal world and especially the higher primates that a mother will almost always protect her offspring. That is instinctive.

In a split second situation, the behaviour of the animal kingdom tells us what humans will do.

You shouldn't become confused between being selfish and taking observations from the animal world. Of course everybody would *like* to think that they would be magnanimous and self sacrificing. Sadly it isn't true and has nothing to do with being selfish or not. Take a look at what happens in an aircraft emergency if you ever had any illusions of humans behaving on a "higher level" than other animals.

This of course is not o be confused with humans assisting others if they perceive that there is little or no risk or additional risk to themselves. That is a value judgment and not an instinctive one. In terms of instinct there is no confusion.

[ARWadworth]

I do not need one.

I have I had one speeding ticket in the last 300 thousand miles I have driven. I was found not guilty on that charge.

I can spot a mobile unit in a 30 zone miles away. Not that it matters as I am not speeding.

It is a little harder to spot mobile cameras on a quiet motorway or dual carriageway where there are no pedestrians. I admit I speed then.

Adam

[Bob Eager]

Whatever it is, I suspect that, given the extreme hangups about this that you have, yours is far worse.

[The Medway Handyman]

Which required drugs was I talking about Dennis? Your memory appears to be playing tricks on you again.

Just for the record an EMT3 can administer 18 drugs, a Paramedic can administer 27, a Doctor on the HEMS unit can administer whatever he wants to including Ketamine.

Everybody else out of step are they?

[The Medway Handyman]

Bob, Dennis has extreme hang ups about driving, speeding, smoking, Apple Macs and God knows what else. How are you going to narrow it down to just one dark secret?

He could keep a shrink busy for years.

[Bob Eager]

LOL!

[Andy Hall]

Reminds me of the Fawlty Towers episode about the psychiatrists.

"There's enough material here for an entire conference"

[dennis]

This is irrelevant, it is not what was described.

As it is you are making assumptions that don't work. You assume I will be driving too fast to stop, just because you do doesn't mean everyone does.

You assume that the dog is invisible, maybe you need better specs?

[dennis]

How do you know?

Lets see how many have I had.... hmmm... none, how many parking tickets...hmmm.. none, eye tests.... hmmm.... thirty or so.

ITYM where there aren't normally pedestrians. There has been a spate of kids running across the M6 by me. That's the difference between speeding and not killing the idiots.