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Similar with me, A few years ago when I bought the Zoe it was not obvious (at least not to me!) that 22kW AC charging was not going to grow much at all, while CCS is popping up everywhere. It hasn't bothered me till now as my use was all charging at home or work and we had (and I still have) the "proper" car for holidays.

My next EV, assuming they ever get round to making it, has CCS and >50kW and I'll be down to just one car.

nib

Well, yes.

Yes, but anyone comtemplating having a home charging point must have off-street space adjacent to their home, surely?

The question otherwise doesn't arise.

I was brought up in such locations.

What sort of price?

But what if someone else parks in that spot (as they are surely entitled to do)?

And it's all good fun until the car comes home with the interior all contaminated with puke.

Competition for on-street parking space is one issue guaranteed to work against that!

It doesn't sound optimum.

And there you have it...

A little think like that isn't going to stop someone making megabucks from the idea.

Just think, if a development like that meant that peoples commute is less of a factor on where they have to live, then there is a huge pool of run down areas that can be gentrified and exploited. Trebles all round !

Operating as a taxi business will incur a lot more cost than using the car for domestic and pleasure. Increased insurance, increased depreciation, fees to a third party in order to obtain passengers and to collect fares. If into littlebucks, VAT registration and maybe an accountant, taxi registration fees, costs with the extra checks on vehicle.

Possibly not financially viable in that kind of area. Taxis are an expensive mode of transport and run-down possibly indicates not much disposable income in that area. Possibly the type of area avoided by the traditional taxi driver - for good reason. I know someone who has given up as a Uber driver in a leased car. His best earning period was the traditional pub culture evening trade and not driving people to work or the station in the mornings/evenings.

That's fairly straightforward. You may need to swap your charger box for a slightly fancier one that's enrolled in a payment network, but that's more or less it - when you sign up with the network they know where it is and makes its status appear on charging maps etc. You can set the rate you want to charge.

The more awkward thing is it occupies a parking space, which means potentially you have nowhere to park when you get home. But if space isn't a problem and you don't mind strangers hanging around then why not?

Theo

Thanks, I was thinking of something a little less formal , eg someone has enough room to park their car to one side and lets trusted neighbours they know who don’t have an off road area and they pay by cash or bank transfer rather than an app. My neighbours have been running two EV’s for some years now , they have got used to shuffling them around to reach the charger.*It would not be too different if the second car was actually someone else’s.

• When they got their first it was quite funny, he is a bit of a scatterbrain and always in a rush. Took him a few months to remember to plug it in on arriving home, there were several mornings he did not have enough power to do the round trip to the office and back located in a town that then had no public charger. Fortunately he owns the business so only has to answer to himself.

GH

I don't think there's any reason why you couldn't do that. The main thing is the billing side - the charger can measure how much energy is taken, but you need to apportion that to someone's bill. The payment systems handle that for you, whereas if you just shared your own charger then you'd need to work out which car it was and when they left.

The fancier chargers don't need to be enrolled in a public network, you can also use them with RFID cards. eg in a staff car park you use them to identify who is plugged in and then send them a bill at the end of the month, without having to make the points available for all and sundry. That may be worth doing if you can share out the cost difference between the domestic unit and the one that supports RFIDs. eg:

Regular charger £529.56+VAT

Theo

Wait until the call comes at 03:00.

They would meet the milkman , his van has so many lights its like being in a scene from Close Encounters of the Third Kind when he pulls up. Presumably because of the hot nights disturbing sleep and windows being open there has been a rash of reports on surrounding villages SM about a suspicious white van cruising around and stopping outside properties.

GH

And you also couldn't balance a roof box on it.

In addition to the wiper being floppy, and the trim pieces falling off.

I saw one in town here, but it was moving and didn't stick around. What was weird, was there were mostly ICE cars, and then a Cybertruck and some other Tesla Model went by, bumper to bumper. I presume this was advertising of some sort.

Some of the customers put "wraps" on them. One I saw in the news yesterday, it looked like it was painted, but I think that was just a wrap, as paint won't particularly stick to the finish.

The weight of some of the vehicles could change their classification. The Hummer and the Silverado are pretty heavy. They both might be close to 200 Kilowatt Hours, with Ultium batteries. A bigger battery, doesn't particularly buy you range. The vehicles are tall enough, aerodynamically they're rolling bricks.

Also yesterday in the news, there was a claim the "car makers" are complaining about the BEV mandate in my country. It looks like someone is turning back the clock, using tariffs as a weapon. I don't think this is particularly going to work. There was also a suggestion "we should build our own cars", which is more than a bit silly. We would have to go from zero, to heavily automated robotic assembly, in the blink of an eye. That never works.

When the notion of building a battery plant, flitted through someones head, the framing for the building is up, and the project stopped. Such is progress, in the year 2525. If you need an unfinished building suited to no particular purpose, I bet we could make you a deal.

I don't know about you, but every day here, its the same old whining and moaning. If only we could make money from whining and moaning, we'd be rich.

Paul

This is a video of a man staring at the camera and reading from a script.It is really for people who can't read, whereas usenet is text based for people who like to read.

Why would I watch several minutes of youtube advertising then watch a bloke's face for ten minutes when I could read your opinion in ten seconds if you could be bothered to write what you think? Why are you wasting my time?

TW

Most mileage figures are based on constant speed in ideal conditions, and real driving isn't like that. The Which? magazine did an article on it earlier this year.

Many years ago, I had a Hillman Imp and I had a 240 mile each way journey, mostly along motorways. It was a sunny morning when I started out. At the end of the day it was pouring with rain when I started back. Just sweeping water away from the tyres at motorway speeds on the return journey used a gallon and a half more petrol than I had used on the dry roads earlier in the day.

I had a couple of Volvo 240s, which between them lasted 20 years and about 350,000 miles.

Chris

One leg may have been downhill and the other up hill :)

I regularly do journeys of that mileage (to/from the same location) in an ICE vehicle and see around a 10% variation in fuel consumption depending on weather and traffic conditions. These days I tend to use cruise control for most of my journey which is on motorways. The dreaded mobile speed camera did register 85mph on the motorway so I'm a tiny bit more cautious these days.

It is my understanding that with an EV the range changes much more with ambient temperature and the range figures are possibly quoted for at nominal 20C temperature. There is also the small print - range can change with loading and driving style.

Before I got my EV. I drove diesels for around 30 years. On one journey up the M6, I noticed my fuel consumption has increased alarmingly. I then realised I still had my roof bars in place from a previous event. I stopped at the first service area I could and took off the bars. Fuel consumpton back to normal.