A bath filling option sometimes suggested is to use a diverter from the thermostatic shower valve to a Grohe Talentofill, or similar. I know this would need a high pressure system.
Has anybody tried this and been pleased, or otherwise, with the result?
I've got the Hansgrohe version, the Exafill, sitting in my garage awaiting the forthcoming bathroom refit. If noone replies before, and you can wait that long, I'll post back once it's up and running.
How much are these to buy? I assume a 15mm connection as per the Grohe Talentofill. A separate shower mixer diverter valve needs to be purchased I assume
We now have two bathrooms run off the same shower pump.
In the original bathroom we had an Aqualisa thermostatic mixer shower installed, and decided to have the bath taps (individual) also plumbed into the shower pump. This fills the bath pretty rapidly, although the force of water can lift the plug out of the plughole when the bath is nearly empty, and the little plastic filter/frother things in the taps can get blown out into the bath by the force of the water. However this works fine. All you don't get is automatic temperature control.
In the new bathroom we have fitted a Triton Tay thermostatic mixer which is a combined bath tap and shower mixer (you can also get these from e.g. Aqualisa but the Triton was a very good price). This works fine both as a shower and as a bath filler.
So if you don't already have the shower installed then there are other options :-)
Given the experience with our Triton Tay (which is basically an all-in-1 version of what you are proposing to build from several bits) I should think that you should get good results.
I tried to work out what the Talentofill does - where the inputs are, how many etc. - but it is still not clear to me.
We are going for a curved front bath, and don't want the shower pipe running from the tap location.
It seems to be basically a pop-up waste/ overflow plus a filling aperture. Looks like a slightly deeper fitting, and must have connections for single inlet, overflow and pop-up waste.
If we get really carried away, might go for 3-way diverter feeding wall mounted shower, bath outlet plus one of those slimline shower heads that retract into the bath side (though I have only seen those as part of 3 or 4-hole sets) for SHMBO to rinse her hair.
Does this replace the bath taps and sits on the bath? Some are available that are wall mounted, but have to be fitted low on the wall, to operate from the bath and when standing in the shower.
Hi Chris, I have the Talentofill fitted with the Grohe Thermo Mixer, cant rememeber the model no. My system is mains pressure form two 50l immersion tanks (i live in Malta) I would never go back to to a normal bath mixer now. The mixer has two positions bath and shower, switch to bath and the bath filLs in about 3mins at the right temp with no messing about with hot and cold taps. Another advantage is if you have children, there are no hot parts to touch in the bath as the talentofil covers the inlet point. If you haven't bought the mixer yet, then try to get the one withbath divertor built in ,ive just checked i'm using Grohetherm 3000 components. I also ran the system with a pump(stuart turner monsoon) for a couple of weeks, but the pump noise irritated SWMBO, so I switched the system to mains, but it operated just as well pumped as it does with mains pressure. The main advantage to the mains system is 3 showers can be running at anytime with no descernable drop in pressure.
another point to consider is maybe buying from France or elsewhere in Europe, as all my Grohe fittings, 3xGrohetherm 3000 mixers 2x eurobasin taps 3xshower raisers 8xbody jets 2xtalentofils came to a total of 300 pounds, I dread to thInk of the cost in the UK.
The diverter valve is integral to the concealed mixer, fitted halfaway up the wall like a normal concealed shower mixer. It has two controls, one for temperature which also has a safety lock that you have to depress to go above 38 degrees and a flow control which has three positions -bath - off - Shower. In shower mode there is also a release catch which is set at about 1/3rd flow, you have to press a small lever to go above this preset flowrate. The Talentofil, which fits in the overflow hole, is connected to the mixer by one 3/4" pipe, it also contols the pop up waste and has builtin overflow. inside the Talentofil the incoming water is split into a long, about 2" oval opening, and over this clips a fine mesh to aerate the water, so even at full pressure and full flow the water does not hit the bottom of the bath and shoot up the other side, which is exactly what happens if you don't fit it. DAMHIK! One thing to be wary of, is that ther are different versions of the talentofil for different types of baths. The one on our corner bath has a longer connection to reach the plughole than the one on our standard bath.
The concealed mixer also has another outlet which can be used with a seperate flow valve, ie for body jets or a second shower head.
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