The Budget

Sep 13, 2024 Last reply: 1 year ago 55 Replies

That IS paid at the pump.

Yes, I'm sure both are subject to VAT on top of the duty charged on them. That's VAT on the factor price and VAT on the duty.

Good question. I've never been a fan of VAT.

It seems that one of its purposes was to clamp down on various low level black economy activities by requiring businesses to account for every penny expended.

If you buy your power away from home, you pay VAT at 20%

How do they know what mileage you do in the first 3 years of the vehicles life ?

What percentage of people have a smart phone ?. These people are already being tracked, apart from all the ANPR cameras along motorways and main roads.

No need for the first three years of a vehicles life, and modern cars can have their mileage altered extremely easily.

It's all historic though, HMRC will want real-time data of vehicle movements to cater for demand pricing, so the MOT reading is a bit useless.

That's what I was led to believe, a little OBD-II box, presumably from a bloke down the pub, can do odometer <cough>correction</cough>

There is no such tax as Road Tax. There was in 1921 and for years it existed to fund roads and road maintenance. It is now called Vehicle Excise Duty, VED and is a tax for having a vehicle. It's been called VED for a long, long time. The money raised just goes to The Exchequer to be used for whatever the current bint sees fit.

Because having mandatary tracking of the population's movement is a politician's wet dream. There's so much more that can be tagged on to that data than just car mileage charges.

How long till the new goons try to resurrect mandatary ID cards? Electronic of course with the software provided by the usual suspects like Fujitsu or Crapita.

A couple of potential problems

The first MOT is after 3 years.

If you purchase a second hand car you may/will be paying for someone else's mileage.

Mobile phones can be anonymous with no link between a car and the phone and no link between a physical address and the phone.

That would be reflected in the price you paid.

At least VAT taxes people who have money to *spend* rather than people who own assets but have no money to spend.

I'd love to see 200% VAT on smart phones

Labour fosters hatred in people for those who have assets, and calls the 'rich tory scum'

And taxes them so they have to sell those assets and go live on the state instead.

The odometer Afetr three years they can adjust your bill..

Or left at home when driving

I love a bit of proof by assertion in the afternnon

AFAIK its extremely hard. Board level access to a chip that may not have a reset function

What HMRC wants and what is actually possible are two different things

Lefties love to cat-bell

Never saw that option on my scanner

Identity cards would slash illegal immigration. No ID card. No access to benefits, the NHS, bank account, anything. Except jail

3rd party check on the registration document at resale to ensure correct mileage

but the AA & RAC will,now only accept email calls for assistance.

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