My multimeter has a battery test facility that shows the battery as good or bad (or on the margin). I understand a zinc carbon battery has a voltage of 1.5 Volts and an alkaline battery has a voltage of
1.2 Volts? How does it know the difference between a very good alkaline battery and a very bad zinc carbon battery?.
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alan_m
It's probably only calibrated for the former but by putting a resistive load across the battery during the test will bring the voltage below
1.2V on a bad battery.
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Fredxx
An alkaline battery also has a nominal o/c voltage of 1.5V
Internal resistance is a good indication of battery capacity, and the easiest way to measure this is under load.
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Bob Eager
Alkaline are also 1.5v. You are thinking of rechargeables (e.h. NiMH) for
1.2v.
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Brian Gaff
That is clearly not so, since most of them have 1.5v, its only rechargeable nicad or nimh that have 1.2v.
The normal way I test batteries is with a load, If you blip a reasonable load on a good battery, no change in volts, on a partly dead one there is a drop, as the area used is smaller, ie it cannot shove out the same current as its electrodes get coated. Most alkaline if used a little, charged a little etc can last a surprisingly long time before the system cannot hold the charge. Beware though as the seals can go with the pressure inside if you get too greedy. Brian
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Scott
Thanks. This certainly explains it. I was indeed mistaken.
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Chris Green
Alkaline are also 1.5v when new.
It's rechargeable NiCd and NiMh that have a lower 'good' voltage, around 1.2 to 1.3 volts.
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Scott
Indeed, mea culpa.
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tabbypurr
There are 2 requirements for a good battery: voltage & current. Terminal voltage often tells enough, but not always. The other test is to touch probes of a 1A meter to the battery for a fraction of a second, see how fast the needle flies up. Digital meters generally can't do this. Keep the probes on & you'll kill both meter & battery.
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Paul
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"We can only take a snapshot of the internal resistance with this method. The internal resistance can vary with things like battery age and temperature. In 10 minutes, the resistance value might be different!
A common AA alkaline battery might have anywhere between 0.1 ? and 0.9 ? internal resistance."
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"The typical effective resistances of fresh Energizer alkaline cylindrical batteries (using a 5 mA stabilization drain followed by a 505 mA 100 millisecond pulse) will be approximately 150 to 300 milliohms, depending on size."
The Energizer method uses two load resistors, first tests with the light load, then light+heavy load.
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Andrew
I used to love winding up car boot sellers, flogging batteries. I would ask them for SR44 camera batteries, and they would always try and flog me LR44's, "because they are the same".
When asked what their understanding of current delivery characteristics is, they would get into the usual nonsense claim that they "would work", which in many cases they wouldn't.
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Martin Brown
A good fresh alkaline can be as high as 1.6v open circuit.
Most battery testers are based on presenting a load to the cell and then measuring the voltage under that stress test. Some Duracells had a self test feature at one time - but it made them much less reliable :(
I no longer use Duracells I have had too many leaks. Panasonic and Energiser are my preferred brands now for things where rechargeables won't hack it. Usually low current draw LCD display devices.
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Scott
Could my battery testing facility (in the multimeter) be doing this?
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Martin Brown
Given that a humble AA can source 10A into a dead short that would quite likely wrap the needle round the end stop on an analogue meter or blow the internal fuse on a modern digital meter.
It probably measures the battery terminal voltage with and without a suitable load resistor across it.
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Fredxx
I have a cheapo meter that can handle 20A. Combined with the resistance of the test leads I think it would be quite safe for the meter. The leads might get warm though!
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Fredxx
It might but you need to look at the instructions/spec of your meter to confirm.
I don't have a meter with this facility, nor have I seen a multimeter that has.
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Dave Plowman (News
You'll most likely blow the fuse in the DVM if the battery can exceed the current range.
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tabbypurr
They start off above 1.5v. 1.5v is only nominal.
A well used one can go as high as 1.8v under odd circumstances. I had a couple do that earlier this year. They were well used then recharged, and gave a strangely high output. No idea why, none of the others did.
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tabbypurr
that's why it's only connected for a fraction of a second. What you're looking for is enough oomph to be confident the needle would fly off the end if it stayed connected. Harmless if not sustained. You can't use the method with digitals.
A load resistor yes, how suitable is another matter. They tend to load them very lightly.
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tabbypurr
If anything gets warm you left it connected way too long.
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