Smart meter(s) fitted today.

[Smolley]

Did you get a display repeater for in the house viewing..? The guy that fitted my smart meter said it wouldn't work, because my meter doesn't work in smart mode, so I didn't get one.

[Sam Plusnet]

Is there any way for you to monitor your energy used? How do Octopus intend to bill you in the meantime?

(We don't have smart meters, and they would be pretty useless due to topology - but I know we will end up with a pair at some point.)

[Andy Burns]

Presume they use average for previous year(s) and round-down generously?

My battery isn't dead yet after ~13 years.

[charles]

My smart meters still have dials. They could send a meter reading person.

[L]

I used to use Octopus API to retrieve those usage data from home assistant. It has few hours lag though

[Andy Burns]

But with a flat battery, it won't be reporting to Octopus

[charles]

I'd have expected the lack of reporting to be a clue

[Andy Burns]

I thought that meters were now owned/maintained by the supplier you pay the bill to, rather than the network operator (REC)? Mine was an individual install, not half the street.

[charles]

My meters were fitted by my previous supplier - and marked as such. But, I'm now paying someone else for my energy.

[Andy Burns]

I thought they transferred ownership, but OFGEM implies there are other "roles" involved

MAPs who own the meters and MOPs/MAMs who install and maintain them and the suppliers are charged for renting them...

[Sam Plusnet]

So the energy required to do the metering is taken from the flow of gas (I assume it's a gas meter L was referring to) - it's only the external reporting which requires battery power. Thanks, I wondered about this aspect. I assume the electricity meter has no need of batteries.

[alan_m]

My smart gas meter only has a digital display, no dials seen in the case. I guess the metering side may be mechanical and ongoing if the battery went flat. Fitting a new battery would then start transmitting again but the meter wouldn't have any data at the 30 minute intervals, just the ongoing total amount.

[Andy Burns]

More likely ultrasonic doppler.

[L]

Yea you are right There’s no way to monitor my usage currently as my smart meter has digital display only I asked octopus if they will estimate my usage based on winter consumption. But they haven’t reply me 😔

[L]

Even when the smart meter was working, I still have to report the readings from the display to Octopus. They simply can’t fetch my smart meter readings somehow.

Btw, I’m talking about gas meter My electricity and water smart meter are working fine

[Sam Plusnet]

For which electric power would be necessary. Flat battery = no monitoring of gas usage.

Your Utility company is then free to 'estimate' your usage in any way it choses.

[L]

That’s correct! Octopus charged me £1xx for gas since Feb.

But luckily they finally have arrange a slot for me to replace the smart gas meter