Not all of it goes to waste. The previous owner of my house worked for
one of the larger building contractors, and when I moved in, there was a
large pile of second hand MDF (slightly trimmed down 8x4 15mm sheets)
that had clearly been used as temporary partitioning during a
refurbishment job (the stickers on it made it fairly clear where). It
has made building bookshelves a very cheap pastime.
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Indeed - if you can be in the right place at the right time, there can
be a bonanza of free materials if they people running the site are
amenable. I have a mate with a lockup full of ply and OSB from such an
When they built Meadowhall and i was working there I got so much timber
from skips I filled two sheds and had to use some of it to make another
shed to put the rest of it in. I've still got about fifty lengths of
hardwood dowel: I just break a bit off every time I want to stir some
I got a very large quantity of 10mm threaded bar in much the same way;
dunno what I'll ever do with it all. I use it for rebar etc.
I do, but it needs working at.
One of the worst excesses of DIY has to be single household tool
proliferation. So, this sort of thing:
DIY on its own as it stands probably wastes more than it saves.
Also, skill sharing. IMHO DIY gets bodged because the DIYer doesn't have
the time/experience to get up to speed. It often takes me three or four
times to get things even remotely right, whereas some things seem more
natural. So share skills:
(don't know anything about them, but does seem to organise the principle
of skill sharing)
And then there's the issue of putting trades people out of work.
More the aggravation.
A good pro is like gold.
Most (9/10ths when I was looking to have my roof retiled) either don't
turn up, charge silly money, cancel at the last minute or just talk
bullshit and look crap.
On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 11:58:35 UTC, Tim Watts wrote:
Well a good pro is something else.
So what did you do.
I had to have pros in as I don't own scaffolding and I doubt I could put it up by myself, otherwise the scaffolding company wouldn;t be employing 3 people to do it but would just employ one person wouldn't they ?
Just because its more efficient to have 3 people do it when
you are doing it professionally doesn't mean that you can't
do it yourself when you don't care about how long it takes.
There are a few things like pouring a massive great concrete
slab where it isnt possible for one person to do it themselves,
but there aren't that many of those situations with houses.
The reason scaffolding companies employ 3 people is
simply because it's more than 3 times as quick doing
it that way. That's simply because with one person
they're forever climbing up and down the ladder to
secure both ends
But providing you used a hoist as you went there's
no reason you couldn't do it all on your own. Fred
Dibnah used to hoist scaffold boards to the tops of
200ft mill chimneys to give himself a platform to work
from. Mind you he didn't have to climb down 200ft every
time to lash up the next load.
Oddly it's one thing TV always got pros in for. Scaffolding in a TV studio
as part of the set. No matter how simple or small. I was told it's because
the scaffold companies had their own insurance. Yet our own chippies would
build things sometimes much larger.
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Dave Plowman email@example.com London SW
On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 18:05:08 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
Well I have a job so it doesnt always make sense to DIY as to me my time is
worth money even if I didn't have a job.
Some will spend hours in the garden pottering about, I havent been in mine
this year so far.
Like your advice to get a pet put down is to buy a stun gun on ebay use it
and then resell it where as I'd prefer to take the pet to the RSPCA where t
hey'll do it for noithing or a mall donation which you don't really have to
I think my way is better.
Your time isnt worth money when you do the DIY in the
evenings or on the weekends when you aren't working.
The most you can validly claim is that you would
rather do something else like veg out in front of
the TV or down the pub etc.
And if you don't have a job, you time isnt worth anything
when you would just do something else instead like veg
out in front of the TV or read the paper etc.
I'm not into parasiting on other people like that.
More fool you with DIY.
With all of the marmalade, relish, beer, spirits, house,
car, aircraft maintenance, computers, appliance repair,
vegy growing etc etc etc I get a MUCH better result
DIYing it than paying someone else to do it for me.
With some stuff like the heart stent, skin cancers,
dentistry, glasses etc I get a better result paying
someone to do it than I can do myself.
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