Had to look that one up.
The same idea as my grandfather's yard brush which has had 4 new heads and 3 new handles but is still the same brush!
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Ship Of Theseus?
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Yes. Oten quted as the classic problem of identity in metaphysics. Easily solved by resalising identity is a figment of our imagination. I am not the same person I was when I started writing this.
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Or the axe used to behead Charles I, that has since had several new blades and handles, but is still the same axe.
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We call that 'Trigger's broom' these days. ;-)
Cheers, T i m
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Doesn't stop middle aged people being prosecuted for what they did when they were callow teenagers.
I think that's why identity is regarded as so important: to stop people avoiding punishment by claiming they're different from the ones that committed crimes.
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that was amazingly deep ....
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Yes. I found it to be intriguing that Trigger's Broom wsa the continuation of philosophical discussions in Accient Greece 3000 years ago.
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I find it persuasive that it is memory that makes identity. I know that I am me because I remember being me yesterday, and yesterday I remembered being me the day before, and so on. I think there have been Star Trek episodes involving transporter accidents addressing this aspect.
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and if you lose memory you are nobody ? ...
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they are. no reason not to prosecute tho.
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I am, therefore I think.
Is this putting Descartes before de horse?
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Why not prosecute someone for what his twin did?
Or anyone for anything anyone did?
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What if they succeed in copying a person's memory and put it in a robot brain? And another robot? And another? Where is your identity now?
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No, but you are not the same person.
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Ther you go, getting all caught up with the idea of 'identity'
My point is that it is a legal term, a social convention, its not *real*.
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it is the people who get drunk and have their inhibitions suppressed that annoy me....they are not the same person that they are when sober that is for sure ....
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What sparked this one off? Its a bit like my Hi fi in the 70s, the only bits not changed are the phono leads. Brian
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I do have some sympathy with things that they did when young. If you don't believe people can reform then what iis the point in letting them out of gaol?
Brian
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Who still uses phono leads? Digital is the way to go. Buy a good amp with a good DAC in it and just use cheap stuff to feed it digital signals as they are better than expensive analogue sources.
Even a £20 DVD player will produce perfect digital signals whatever the audophiles tell you. Do a blind test with the same amp and speakers and they won't tell the difference.
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An important one. You don't /really/ know that the person who will wake up in your body tomorrow morning is you, or just a new being who inherits all your memories or abilities; but if you didn't assume so, you wouldn't bother making plans for the future, except inasmuch as you might make plans for your descendants, i.e. not a great deal.