replace wc pan

[news]

The wiki faq doesn't seem to have any guidance: I have cracked the pan of a low level wc in a cloakroom and need to replace it. It is old with a bottom exit to the sewer which is only 150mm centre from the back wall. Most modern pans seem to be horizontal exit so if I buy one I will need a 90 degree bend and this means moving the pan forward by several inches, or is there another solution?

The only close coupled wc and cistern I have seen with a bottom outlet requires 210mm from wall to centre.

Pondering about efficacy of flushing, surely a high level cistern imparts more kinetic energy to the water than a low level one?

AJH

[The Natural Philosopher]

yes....that seems to be where its at

In your case I would be tempted to use a 90 degree bend from a trad pan, and then build a false wall - you could have a concealed cistern behind it - to make the new pan location look more natural

It does, but its not always clear that's the best way to float turds away.

[Andrew Gabriel]

You can get a P-shaped pan coupler, e.g.

[sm_jamieson]

We used a laufen pan like this:

It extends a bit at the back to allow space for a 90 degree bend. Our pipe in the floor was put very close to the wall on purpose to facilitate this. Simon.

[DerbyBorn]

+1

[DerbyBorn]

The Natural Philosopher wrote in news:oagv6h$ib0$ [e-mail]:

I used one - - it works fine. I ended up having a single thickness of plasterboard behind the cistern as a spacer as I couldn't quite get it all the way back. I tink part of the WC was hitting against the slightly proud dran pipe - but it was near enough. Good luck - I hope you get one and that it works as well for you as it did for me.

[DerbyBorn]

Worth looking a the range:

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[DerbyBorn]

Sorry - meant this link:

[Brian Gaff]

Depends on pipe sizes and siphon type. Brian

[Alan]

Go to a decent plumbers merchants who will be able to source a direct replacement - they are available, but not from B&Q etc.

[Tim Watts]

You've got a lot of faith... I took a ceramic tap cartridge into 3 or 4 plumbers merchants (including the one remaining "trade only, the public can f*ck off" places).

After some arse scratching, none of them could match it...

It'd be amazed if they could match a bog for port spacings. In fact you'd probably be better off in B&Q going around with a tape measure on their display...

[news]

I had already been to the old school one at the end of my road and they weren't much use.

Thanks for all the replies, I'll just buy a cheap twyford low level pan and keep the existing cistern.

It will have to sit a little bit forward even with the mcallister P conversion for the outlet.

Any views on what it should be bedded on prior to screwing to the floor?

AJH

[The Natural Philosopher]

three matchstick spacers and some silicone. Don't bother to screw it

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[harry]

Use a none close coupled WC pan and tank.

[Steve Walker]

When we cracked our washbasin some years ago, we already had a crack in the toilet. We figured that we'd have to have a full new suite and that it would be worth claiming on our insurance for that. However the insurance company knew of a company that specialised in out of production items and managed to source a new pan and basin, which was a lot less bother. It may be worth trying to find such a company.

Following on from that, they'd said we'd have to pay two excesses of £50 each as the damage was caused on two separate occassions. They were going to arrange for a plumber, but I said that I'd fit them myself. They then said they would pay me, but only at minimum wage. I said not to bother and I presume that the person dealing with it decided to help us out, because neither excess was ever charged.

SteveW

[Andrew]

Twyfords still do an S-trap pan for about £65

There used to be an architectural scrap yard in worthing that bought up old, used coloured bathroom suites and sold them on to people who were desparate for a colour match.