replace wc pan

The wiki faq doesn't seem to have any guidance: I have cracked the pan of a low level wc in a cloakroom and need to replace it. It is old with a bottom exit to the sewer which is only 150mm centre from the back wall. Most modern pans seem to be horizontal exit so if I buy one I will need a 90 degree bend and this means moving the pan forward by several inches, or is there another solution?
The only close coupled wc and cistern I have seen with a bottom outlet requires 210mm from wall to centre.
Pondering about efficacy of flushing, surely a high level cistern imparts more kinetic energy to the water than a low level one?
AJH
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On 17/03/17 10:55, snipped-for-privacy@loampitsfarm.co.uk wrote:

yes....that seems to be where its at
In your case I would be tempted to use a 90 degree bend from a trad pan, and then build a false wall - you could have a concealed cistern behind it - to make the new pan location look more natural

It does, but its not always clear that's the best way to float turds away.

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You can get a P-shaped pan coupler, e.g. https://www.travisperkins.co.uk/McAlpine-WC-CON-Q-90-Degree-Pan-Connector-110mm/p/819193
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wrote:

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I used one - - it works fine. I ended up having a single thickness of plasterboard behind the cistern as a spacer as I couldn't quite get it all the way back. I tink part of the WC was hitting against the slightly proud dran pipe - but it was near enough. Good luck - I hope you get one and that it works as well for you as it did for me.
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Worth looking a the range:
http://www.plumbcenter.co.uk/product/mcalpine-wc-conq-90deg-spacesaver- connector/
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Sorry - meant this link:
http://mcalpineplumbing.com/wc-connectors/rigid-wc-connectors
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On 17/03/2017 13:10, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

Twyfords still do an S-trap pan for about £65
There used to be an architectural scrap yard in worthing that bought up old, used coloured bathroom suites and sold them on to people who were desparate for a colour match.
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On Friday, 17 March 2017 10:55:55 UTC, snipped-for-privacy@loampitsfarm.co.uk wrote:

We used a laufen pan like this: https://www.qssupplies.co.uk/bathroom-furniture-shower-taps/82106.htm
It extends a bit at the back to allow space for a 90 degree bend. Our pipe in the floor was put very close to the wall on purpose to facilitate this. Simon.
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Depends on pipe sizes and siphon type. Brian
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 10:55:53 +0000, news wrote:

Go to a decent plumbers merchants who will be able to source a direct replacement - they are available, but not from B&Q etc.
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On 17/03/17 19:32, Alan wrote:

You've got a lot of faith... I took a ceramic tap cartridge into 3 or 4 plumbers merchants (including the one remaining "trade only, the public can fuck off" places).
After some arse scratching, none of them could match it...
It'd be amazed if they could match a bog for port spacings. In fact you'd probably be better off in B&Q going around with a tape measure on their display...
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I had already been to the old school one at the end of my road and they weren't much use.
Thanks for all the replies, I'll just buy a cheap twyford low level pan and keep the existing cistern.
It will have to sit a little bit forward even with the mcallister P conversion for the outlet.
Any views on what it should be bedded on prior to screwing to the floor?
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On 17/03/17 21:13, snipped-for-privacy@loampitsfarm.co.uk wrote:

three matchstick spacers and some silicone. Don't bother to screw it

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On Friday, 17 March 2017 10:55:55 UTC, snipped-for-privacy@loampitsfarm.co.uk wrote:

Use a none close coupled WC pan and tank.
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On 17/03/2017 10:55, snipped-for-privacy@loampitsfarm.co.uk wrote:

When we cracked our washbasin some years ago, we already had a crack in the toilet. We figured that we'd have to have a full new suite and that it would be worth claiming on our insurance for that. However the insurance company knew of a company that specialised in out of production items and managed to source a new pan and basin, which was a lot less bother. It may be worth trying to find such a company.
Following on from that, they'd said we'd have to pay two excesses of £50 each as the damage was caused on two separate occassions. They were going to arrange for a plumber, but I said that I'd fit them myself. They then said they would pay me, but only at minimum wage. I said not to bother and I presume that the person dealing with it decided to help us out, because neither excess was ever charged.
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