Fitting vinyl flooring around a WC pan

Sep 11, 2020 Last reply: 5 years ago 28 Replies

We have a small (2.6 x 1.2m) en suite shower room with shower, WHB and WC. The floor is Victorian floor boards, carpeted. The carpet is out and needs to be replaced with vinyl, but the thought of trying to trim the vinyl neatly around the WC is scary, even after making a paper template.



The WC is relatively modern (40 yrs) with low level cistern and waste exiting horizontally, through the wall (i.e. no 90 degree bend to the floor). The WC pan is screwed to the floor, one screw each side.



How practical would it be for me to remove the screws and lift the pan a few mm while wife slides the vinyl underneath? I have visions of disturbing the seal on the waste outlet such that it weeps forever after. Thoughts? Anyone tried something similar?



Thanks!


no problem done it myself as long as you have a multikwick type pan connection and not a rigid one....and take the two screws out of the back of the cistern....

Graeme laid this down on his screen :

Sliding it under, whilst you hold it up, will not work - you will be in the way of the vinyl. Just take the pan out, resealing will not be too difficult.

If you screw a batten to the walls left and right, you can stand on them and lift the WC up, while someone else slides the vinyl along the floor.

Owain

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I have visions of me, feet firmly on the floor, with a roll of vinyl on the floor between my feet and the pan. I lift pan, wife, reaching between my legs (!), unrolls vinyl and slides it forward. Doesn't matter if I have to put the pan down now and again. Possibly.

Toilet pan weighs enough without leaning over the roll of vinyl to get at it. Unless you want to do your back in.

I think it's the kind of thing that's easy when you know how. I had that done professionally a few years ago in a tiny bathroom. I think they must have made a small hole and then cuts radially, put down the vinyl and then trimmed it afterwards. The cuts didn't show.

Ben Blaukopf explained on 11/09/2020 :

The only way I can imagine, without removing it or lifting it, is a series of small rollers. Several 15mm wooden dowels, wider than toilet base, gradually introduced between base of toilet and vinyl as it progresses under toilet. It might not work if there is a lot of friction between vinyl and floor surface.

Other alternative is trim as accurately as you can then `seal` the joint to the pan with a bead of silicone which should hide any inaccuracies.

It is isn't it?

You know though, don't you, that the toilet is coming out! :)

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Another good idea. Who can recall the name of that special tool for finishing sealant, originally mentioned by TMH, from memory?

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Nooooooooooooooooooo! :-)

+1.

Relatively easy with a "traditional" separate cistern, a bit more faff with close coupled. Not so bad as long as you have a service valve in the water supply though.

After flushing use a wet and dry vac to remove water from the pan (also from the cistern, if removing that too)

Its what I would do...

Since its not close coupled, you can at least get to the flush pipe and tend to it if needs be. Chances are its just pushed into the socket on the back of the pan with a finned rubber washer. You can always pull that apart a fit a new washer. They are standard items:

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Yup, although I also fitted the pan and left a spacer under it to allow for the flooring. :-)

Yes. I have some, they are great. Jonathan

Yes, it's called a finger. Most of us have several of them!

That might be sensible for a close coupled pan and cistern, but not much for a low level one connected via a flush pipe. That will like put significantly more load on the flush pipe.

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