A house I'm think of buying has a really small downstair toilet at the
end of the kitchen extension. It's really too small to keep in it's
current state, and it would be mutch better to simply remove it to make
better use of the space for the rest of the kitchen.
Does anyone know what would be involved? The soil pipe just disappears
down through the concrete floor. Can the pipe be chopped off and capped
somehow, or would the whole pipe need tracing back to the main drain and
A friend of mine was refused permission by a building control officer to
remove his identical fixture. The BCO's interpretation of Part M was that a
house could not be made less accessible to disabled people than it is
already. People have disputed his interpretation on this newsgroup. However,
you might want to get your local BCO's opinion on this before commiting, as
even if you could win an appeal, it might be more effort than it is worth.
It never even entered my head that I'd need permission to remove an
existing toilet. It really is a waste of space - just a couple of inches
each side of the pan! It's barely big enough for an able bodied person
to use, let alone someone in a wheelchair!
Thanks for the warning! I'll let you know what they say.
The answer is do the dirty deed as though you were an Englishman at
home in his castle.
First switch the mains off and plug the water feed to the cistern at a
suitable place for reconnecting if at a later date that is required.
Next remove the cistern and pan and glue a slate or suitable piece of
plastic over the sewage pipe with some grip fix or any mastic as a
Next remove the cubicle and see what sort of levels you need to make
good with the floors and ceilings etc.
Patch or panel the walls and make good the floor. You may have to hack
some of the toilet floor away to put a suitable permanent seal in
under the new floor. If it's just going to be covered with cupboards
this is unecessary.
Wedge a newspaper in the pipe to stop debris falling down it. It isn't
necessary to level the floor if there are going to be units there, as
they can be adjusted to almost any floor level.
RSoles that want to tell you how to run your house should be put in
their places. Bstrds!
| The Natural Philosopher wrote:
| >The answer is, of course, to build and outdie toilet for disabled use :-)
| And this means? My universal translator is inoperative.
An outdie toilet is where the cripple falls over and dies of hypothermia
On 13 Sep 2003 11:33:01 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org (StealthUK) wrote:
Good point. A toilet opening in to a kitchen would almost certainly
override anybody's objections to disabled access. And I've got a
second toilet downstairs which I would quite happily dismantle without
any reference to a Buildings officer if I wanted to. But I don't need
the space and I feel it adds more value to the house. It's also useful
when some bloody girl is in the upstairs one shaving something.
Strangely not. My friend's toilet opens into the kitchen and doesn't even
have hand washing facilities. They still wouldn't let him take it out. He's
decided to put a wash basin in there anyway, but they couldn't force him to.
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