Re: OT: Murder Rate

It was less lies than prejudiced projections. In the face of insufficient data.

Plus of course massive paid for propaganda on all the media by the remain contingent. It was very much grass roots versus the establishment.

I think the process is going about as well as could be expected given the massive efforts still being made to sabotage it, and spread negative lies and stories about it.

It was never going to be easy, and of itself changes almost nothing: It is a question of whether the freedoms are seized and used to advantage, or whether the civil service will continue to duplicate EU processes in the hope we will be able to rejoin.

Leading question. Leave won by stating facts.

Indeed.

Remain. "EU is wonderful, safe, utterly benign, but we can't explain why, and Brexit is a mad jump into an unknown future full of bogeyemen, so always hang on tight to nurse, for fear of something far far worse" Leave. "We are spending a fortune on a bunch of hopeless unsackable criminal incompetents to tell us how to run our country, when they can't even run their own bureaucracy. "

and without the specialist antibiotic, I'd have died of Legionella, too.

Cool. So you're simply a coward. Noted.

So I should have stayed behind to clear up the mess Dave Plowman and his chums have made of London? It's a lost cause, mate. A basket case of a capital and it's growing worse and worse by the month all the time those boats keep coming over the Channel and no bastard lifting a finger to prevent it. Or even *talking* about preventing it for that matter!

Good grief, no. There is no way I would rely on a specimen such as you to do anything selfless.

So sorry for my mistake. You fled Germany to avoid paying taxes. Only by total accident did you end up in a tax haven.

Let's just put that into words most will understand.

Brexiteers got a majority by persuading most change would bring 'unicorns'.

Remainers said change would likely be for the worse.

One year down the line, no sign of any 'unicorns'. Indeed 60% of the electorate now realise Brexit did then no favours.

Brexiteer's answer?

'It's not as bad as you said it could be'

I did wonder why only you and wodney have the privilege of sharing my kill file. Yours having expired a few days ago. And thanks for confirming the reasons you were in it in the first place.

"Totally the opposite of the horrorshow you said it *would* be" is closer to the mark, Dave.

That is standard with Brexiteers, it would seem.

They persuaded the majority change would be for their benifit.

Now this is plainly not the case, they reply as above.

The logic of fools.

If Brexit had brought the promised benefits, I'd have been one of the first to accept I was wrong in thinking it would be wrong for the majority.

But I'm still avidly waiting to hear about any of the promises coming true.

All I've been told so far is it's not as bad as some said it would be...

Dave Plowman (News) snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk> wrote

You just pretend that there aren't any.

The most obvious ones is that the UK now gets to decide which foreigners are allowed to move to the UK permanantly, gets to decide on all other policy for itself, gets to do trade treaties with any country it chooses to.

That is a bare faced lie.

A true Brexiteer. Thinks remainers actually wanted Brexit and the forecast 'disaster' to happen. Jesus wept.

Care to expand on that? Agriculture is still waiting and hoping. Direct support payments are being phased out gradually as expected. Little to report on the positive side.