> > >>> > >>>>
> >>>> The Petitions Committee has replied to my email about gaming of
> >>>> petitions and the response is much as I expected.
> >>>>
> >>>> As I and others have suggested, simply getting and replying to a
> >>>> confirmatory email is not the end of the matter. Obviously, they are
> >>>> not going to go into details in an email, but they say:
> >>>>
> >>>> 'The Government Digital Service have a number of ways of identifying
> >>>> and preventing fraudulent activity based around blocking, removing
> >>>> and monitoring signatures as appropriate.'
> >>>>
> >>>> Interestingly, they also tell me that, as people do share email
> >>>> addresses, they will permit two votes from one email address. > >>>>
> >>>> As I also suggested, while there is an element of fraud in the
> >>>> voting, it is not a significant amount, although about twice what I
> >>>> thought it was from previously published figures.
> >>>>
> >>>> 'The number of these signatures on the article 50 petition is within
> >>>> the normal range ? around 1%.'
> >>>>
> >>>> So, whatever some Brexiteers on here may wish to believe, there
> >>>> really are around 6 million people who have called upon the
> >>>> government to revoke Article 50.
> >>>>
> >>>> The last time there was a petition on this scale was the Chartists'
> >>>> petition of 1842, with 3.3 million signatures from a population of
> >>>> around 27 million. That was comprehensively rejected by parliament
> >>>> at the time, but is now seen as a milestone in parliamentary reform. > >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> And you believe that?..
> >>
> >> Well, I wasn't expecting you to. You have already frequently
> >> demonstrated a distrust of authority to the point of paranoia. In
> >> fact, distrust of authority is one factor that predisposed people to
> >> vote leave. However, I have, as I promised, relayed the reply for
> >> anybody on here who has a genuine interest.
> >>
> >>
> > Ther are two or three areas which I know far berfter thanb any
> > politician. One is electrical engineering and another is IT and a third
> > is the philsophy of scince.
> >
> > In every area the government has lied.
>
> The petitions committee represents parliament, not government.
>
> >
> > May:
> >
> > "Leave means leave". Lie. Leave means stay in under worse terms. >
> Technically, even with her deal we would be leaving, just not the sort
> of leaving that many Brexiteers thought they were voting for.
>
> > "Control over our borderes" Lie.
>
> That one is actually a Leave campaign lie.
>
> > "Freedom to govern our pen vcountry" Lie.
> > "We will leave on March 29th" Lie.
> >
> > You dont need to be paranoid to see when your government is lying to
> > you, you just need an ounce of intelligence.
>
> Which would tell anybody with it that you don't believe what a
> politician says, only what they do. All along, May has been putting
> holding the Conservative party together before anything else.
She's doing a great job of making them unelectable.
Governments are about power & taking your money. They achieve acceptance of that with propaganda. It is simply immature to trust what they say.