Re: One car key.....

[David]

As long as you're not that bothered about it being stolen, or receiving any payout from your insurance, then go for it.

[Max Demian]

The insurer won't know if it's nicked.

[David]

Unless you're honest. An old-fashioned concept maybe...

[Harry Bloomfield, Esq.]

Jim GM4DHJ ... has brought this to us :

Then your theft insurance on the car would be invalidated.

[ZakJames]

"Harry Bloomfield"; "Esq." [e-mail]> wrote in message news:qo5ev0$d9t$ [e-mail]...

But the insurer is unlikely to ever notice that that's what you have done even in the unlikely event that the insurance assessor does check the car to decide that it's a complete writeoff after the wreck has been discovered if you are careful about gluing the chip where it isnt obvious.

[Brian Reay]

They ask for the keys when they settle.

It will be obvious the key has been cut open to remove to ?chip?.

It is people like Jim trying to save a few pounds and misleading insurers that drive up premiums for responsible drivers.

[ZakJames]

You can tell them that the thief stole those from the house so they could steal the car.

You don?t have to cut mine open to get access to the chip.

Very unlikely any car thief would notice that he doesn?t heed the key to steal his car. He would have to have broken into the car to be able to see that he doesn?t need to defeat the chip sensor.

[Chris Bartram]

If it is recovered damaged, they may start to question how it was started.

[ZakJames]

It will have been damaged because there is no way that the thief would have known that it had the chip glued there so that all that was needed was to pick the key lock.

[tim...]

On the assumption that there is still a "trade" in stolen cars

just how do they get them started? (just generally, no specifics required)

Or alternatively, if the tech improvements mean that cars are now un-stealable (except on a low loader), there won't be any scroets roaming the street looking for a car to steal, will there?

tim

[Chris Green]

It's not too difficult to get an engine to run, supply it with the right fuel mix and give it a twirl and it will run. As far as I understand it all the electronics of an immobiliser will do is make it difficult to get the electrics/injection powered up.

Presumably one can buy/replace the 'clever' bits anyway, so take the car away on the flat-bed and then simply replace the electronics. I don't suppose that it's all that difficult to find an unscrupulous seller (of the electronics) or you might be able to simply get the required bits out of a scrap car of the same or similar model.

[whisky-dave]

I'm guessing there is , it was on eastenders :-)

top-of-the-range vehicles such as Mercedes-Benz and BMW make up the majority of cars stolen and recovered in 2018. Strange the more expensive cars are so relatively easy to steal.

The scroets are likely be equipt with tecnology rather than coat hangers and crobars.

[Dave Plowman (News]

You don't need the keys for that on at least some makes. It can be done via the diagnostic port using software a thief wouldn't find it hard to get.

[Dave Plowman (News]

Going to be fun driving a vehicle away while spraying a starter spray into it. Even more fun with a petrol engine.

[tim...]

I'm still part way through the recently shown Danish program where the perp steals a car to order every episode

well yes, I know about that

but I don't own a keyless car

tim

[whisky-dave]

I own a key that is carless :-)