We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com saying something like:
Why do you need a seat in the first one ...Just use the old European
>thing with the hole in the floor and the footplate things either side
>....have a mirror as well and you can shave in the shower so no need
>for a w/h basin ..more space saved .
Good suggestion. The seatless one can be the ultra-stripped version for cheapskates.