Re: In my experience....

[IMM]

I've only ever used 4 speedfit fittings on the ends of a shower pump in /

> out feeds I fitted last week, because I had no choice as they were on the > ends of the supplied flexi pipes in and out. > I was very dubious when turning on the water system expecting at least a > dribble, but nothing, all worked as they should. > > However, my concern is how these things will survive time. "O" rings > eventually perish and fail in most places, and I expect these to eventually > also. If I have an inaccessable soldered copper joint under a floor > somewhere I can be confident that if it doesn't leak on the day it's fitted, > it won't leak in 20 years time also. However, if I had a speedshit fitting > inaccessable it would concern me. > > For this reason, every joint I have in my house and others I have plumbed is > soldered copper, with the exception of the unavoidiable compression fit on > the ends of taps etc. And I really don't like compression either! > > Soldered may be slower, but I feel time spent using the tried-n-tested > method will be years extra in time the installation lasts. Also, I find > soldered look neater, tidier, and better in cramped spaces than any other > plumbing system. > > Alan.

In first fix on new builds I have seen professionals do soldered jobs faster than using plastic pushfit. Putting in copper pipe with fittings that push together with a some flux in is quick and easy. Less clips to support it too. Then it is a matter of going around and soldering the fittings. A two man team can do this in no time at all. And the cost is a fraction of the plastic stuff.

[David]

In article , IMM writes

No you haven't, you're making that up, I've told you before about telling porkies on newsgroups

[IMM]

Bertie, how is the cowboy game going?

[David]

In article , IMM writes

Sorry John you've lost me there especially as you have just performed a classic cowboy operation, turned up without the proper tools for the job and bodged it up, they make TV programs about people like you

[IMM]

Bertie, this means how are you going along incompetently fitting pipes and making money out of it.

[David]

In article , IMM writes

John I'm not a plumber like you, I don't make money out of fitting pipes

[IMM]

Bertie, I am not a plumber. It obvious you don't make money out of fitting pipes. You know nothing about them.

[Andy Hall]

Based on your recent exploits, I imagine you wouldn't either.......

I'd stay in the armchair and fantasise about LVT if I were you. It ought to keep you out of trouble.

.andy

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[geoff]

In message , IMM writes

'Scuse me

how do you equate

"i had a problem"

with other peoples' experiences

[geoff]

In message , IMM writes

I* suppose your domestic science course didn't prepare you for such eventualities

[David]

In article , IMM writes

I know how to join plastic pipes without a problem John, which is a lot more than you, now next time get the proper tools and do the job properly and take heed of the good advice you've had from the group, there are people here who obviously know a lot more than you.

[David]

In article , geoff writes

c'mon Geoff, give the guy some credit, it was computer science (mind you you would not think it from the garbage he spouts about that as well)

[Dave Plowman]

It certainly shows that quoting maker's specs off the internet and having catalogues for bedtime reading is no substitute for actual hands on experience, but then we've known this about IMM or Adam before him for years. Anyone know what he really does do for a living? All the *actual* things we read about him doing involve it being for friends, and things going wrong...

[Tim Nicholson]

In a previous splinter of the original thread, when I asked why he had so much time to post, he said - and I quote -

my conclusion was that he's either on the dole or retired. He posts

*way* too regularly to be holding down a proper job (or if he's self employed then he's got no customers)

Tim

[Tim Nicholson]

In a previous splinter of the original thread, when I asked why he had so much time to post, he said - and I quote -

"Yep. I am on-line almost all times."

My conclusion was that he's either on the dole or retired. He posts

*way* too regularly to be holding down a proper job (or if he's self employed then he's got no customers)

Tim

[geoff]

In message , [e-mail] writes

Until he actually demonstrates that he has a degree (which over the years various people have asked him to prove), I'm sticking with a CSE in domestic science as his only qualification

[IMM]

Oh you are such fun....

[IMM]

How are the yellow DeWalt boots then. Still leaning on the bar thinking you are macho, when you work in an office. What a Trollope.

no quote.

Strange person.

[IMM]

Bertie, you don't.

[IMM]

Maxie, are you one of the Teletubbies? or do you just wear the suit at night.