Re: Huf Haus on last night's Grand Designs

Brot, bitte sehr, mit großem B!

(Sorry, couldn't resist again!)

MM (Your resident pedant)

I call them the Thatcher children - "no such thing as society" she said. Those brought up under her are pigs, as she promoted the me, me, me, screw the rest mentality.

And you left your brain back in year dot !

Toby, you are one. Or are you a jug?

Because we were better looking, better dressed, better dancers, better singers and better at life than them.

Exactly! You got it! They have far better focus on the job in progress, whereas we seem unable to focus very much at all. Did you notice another surprising thing about German life? No presenteeism! At

But then they are inculcated from a young age with a sense of early birds catching the best worms, since all schools, even at a very junior level start lessons at around twenty to eight in the morning when the mind is fresh. To compensate, children do not have afternoon school, and therefore mothers tend to stay at home much more than in the UK, which again is beneficial to society as this ensures more cohesive family life. No latchkey kids wandering the streets while mum is still at the factory to help support a massive mortgage. Oh, we could learn so much not just from the Germans, but from the French, the Dutch, the Italians - everybody! We do tend to stay on our little overcrowded island too much and close our eyes and ears to the big wide world.

MM

Not at all, they could build industry's that could compete with the far east in any part of Germany, the reason why many of the western countries can't compete is due to cost of labour - Nothing more and nothing less.

Which AIUI is how the far east economies work to a point, people get paid the going rate for the work and not one graded on some form of comparison with other peoples wages in another industry or even country...

that is why we has an immigration scheme.

Immigration was due to a shortage of labour, nothing to do with cost.

This thread is about Grand designs, not Grand Delusions !... :~)

Oh, cum on now

doch

If I don't use a capital with germany, do you think I'm going to bother with brot?

Like minimie (pot - black-kettle, please reorganise) pulling me up on a full stop at the end of my last sentence - I just can't be arsed

In message , IMM writes

Yes that would be it then - nothing to do with the fact that they probably thought you were a wanker

The problem in the UK is due to land ownership - 70% is owned by 1% of the population. There is an artificial land shortage in a country with a land surplus, ramping up land prices, and hence house prices, meaning only 7% of families have the mother at home. Most homes have large mortgages for very small expensive homes meaning both parents need to work to survive.

Yes, land is the answer, release it, use for the benefit if the people, re-distribute it, This what the Germans, Dutch French, etc do. The knock on effect is apparent in their societies compared to the UK. Quality of life is generally better in those countries. Vandalism is rife in the UK, and virtually not there at all in other European countries. Sounds odd, sounds bizarre, but yes it is land that is the root problem with the UK, land. Tackle that and many problems are solved.

Much more deeper than that. I do like the idea of morning schools only, but the problem of taking kids to school in the dark is a touchy subject. Also in the UK school hours are geared to mothers working hours, so they drop off and collect their kids around work times.

It was then and still is now. Envy gets you nowhere.

We could carry on like this all night long!

MM

It's Berlin, by the way...

MM

I thought that went out with the Crusaders?

Regards Capitol