I'd not go for that it can cause infections which are worse. In my case its not prostate its gravity.... Ie my gut pushes on my bladder leading to a sensce of urgency, so one has to induce farts before the sphincter starts to leak! Brian
Gives a whole new meaning to Tap Room.
You don't know that. He might just have a urisheath, basically a heavy duty condom with a drainage facility.
A true catheter goes right into the bladder and is potent source of urinary infections. You really don't want an indwelling catheter unless there is no alternative.
Tim
Starting to head towards the "too much information" category ;-)
They will always put you on that list
what I can't understand is why being on the normal list has taken as long as it has
OP appears to have chronic symptoms which must have started (as not so severe) long ago (many years).
Once it has been established that the meds don't work for you (and they can't be if they haven't shrunk the prostate to a point where you have no symptoms) they will put you on the list for an op (assuming you agree with that course) even if the symptoms are bearable.
You should get to the top in less than a year.
As we have seen, this is a cheap op, 5K private means about 1500 to the NHS. You don't get filtered out as not severe enough as every medic knows that this problem will only get worse for the patient and the op *will* be necessary eventually.
tim
I have just had this operation (known as a TURP) at the Princess Margaret H ospital in Windsor; total cost, including pre-assessment and post-Op check up, was £4128. It involved a one-night stay.
As a bonus, they picked up the fact that I have early-stage prostate cancer , despite my having had a routine NHS PSA test 9 months ago which came back at 1.3, described at the time as "excellent".
So for me, it was certainly an operation worth having.
No, this drains through the "normal" route but with an on/off switch.
I read a hard-to-believe statistic that something like 80-90% of men have undiagnosed prostate cancer at the time they die - virtually all dying of something completely unrelated.
That's about the size of it ;-)
My ex business partner died of it though he was younger than me. I've met a few more people who subsequently *have* died of it.
It's more than common, it's almost ubiquitous, but it's usually very slow moving.
It seems it might be a bit lower than 80-90%. This says
"To estimate the prevalence of unsuspected prostate cancer, we reviewed
19 studies of prostate cancer discovered at autopsy among 6,024 men. Among men aged 70-79, tumor was found in 36% of Caucasians and 51% of African-Americans."They go on to discuss the importance of distinguishing between lethal prostate cancer and what they term indolent prostate cancer, because there's no point undergoing treatment (with all its side effects) if the cancer is relatively slow growing and not going to kill you.
I've heard it often enough ... usually stated that most men will die
*with* prostate cancer, but not *from* prostate cancer.
Worth it to improve your bladder symptoms. You have no way of knowing whether it was "worth it" from the cancer POV.
Tim
Once you are on the path to a benign prostate enlargement, all of the current non-invasive tests for prostate cancer are no longer effective (they simply confirm the benign enlargement).
Prostate cancer has a usual term of 15 years. Missing it by a year or two doesn't involve any risk.
tim
the point is:
Not going to kill you before you die of something else. It will always kill you eventually if you wait long enough.
15-20 years is the norm. Diagnosed in a 75 year old, the risk of the operation is greater than that from the cancer, or was when my dad had it.(and it *did* kill him)
tim
Fair 'nuff.
I'm really sorry for your loss.
The trouble with prostate cancer is that it's a hugely variable beast. A friend of mine in his 50s went to his doctor with pain in his hip. He was dead within a year of diagnosis (which was shortly after his first visit to the doctor).
Tim
I was imagining it being on the bar...
I don't think BUPA have any hospitals anymore, but many (most, all?) of the Spire hospitals used to be BUPA hospitals and you can be treated at these privately without being a BUPA member.
Many NHS hospitals also have a private ward, and can do likewise. It will often be the same surgeon whichever route you go.
Can I just say how much better off you generally are in (the private wing of) an NHS hospital than a private hospital, if something goes wrong. The private hospitals generally don't have doctors available on the site. Possibly a single generalist duty doctor.
Get it done in a decent NHS teaching hospital. Go privately there for greater comfort, jumping the queue, and having a named specialist. Chiefly the last two.
As a vast generalisation, any cancer that causes pain has probably spread quite a bit, which means the prognosis is likely to be bad. Finding it early, before it's symptomatic, makes a vast difference to the likely outcome.
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