Portable A/C vent into fireplace?

And that's the thing, as soon as some people make statements like that, many switch of and are likely to distrust everything else they say. ;-(

Same with his little outburst re what I (not him?) was doing on a mobility scooter and his 'just solder it' but as yet, still hasn't explained what the 'it' was? So, the only outcome you can come to is that he's not engaged his brain before opening his mouth and has since seen the error of his ways.

Had it been fixed 'that day' as he boasted it would have been if it were his job, it would still have stood there unused because of all the other circumstances (he had no idea about).

Cheers, T i m

I seriously think there is something wrong with him (the whole 'tabbypurr' tag makes that pretty likely 'Mad cat man'). ;-)

He reads a series of valid questions, questions several others here have now raised with him and in most part has only answered with weasel words and bs and accuses *us* of 'wasting time'?

Myopic indeed.

How much easier would it be to just answer the questions ... if there were actual answers of course?

Cheers, T i m

My crude swamp cooler doesn't make indoors any damper. Lots of swamp cooling setups don't, and lots do.

NT

I already described its operation

still being childish eh

If yo can't work out that swamp cooling can be done without dumping the vapour indoors then a) you know very little about swamp cooling b) you're playing the fool

So your logical deduction abilities do not work.

NT

I don't know which questions you refer to. With all due respect the basic info has been given, if you want to learn about non-ac cooling go watch some youtube videos on it or read some websites. Yes, it takes a little time. I'm not going to replicate all that material for anyone, let alone a fool that isn't interested in learning anything & keeps making childish comments.

You only need have basic consciousness of your surroundings to know that even in the 1800s some houses were built that remained cool in a hot summer. Since then we have gained vastly more knowledge and technology to work with. If someone seriously thinks it's not possible to cool a house effectively in the UK without ac then I really can not make sense of where their mind is at. And it is not my task to solve whatever their issue is.

NT

You have, you said a "crude swamp cooler" "doesn't make indoors any damper". And then came up with a system that was certainly not crude.

The only childish person is one sitting in his armchair claiming to be an expert saying a "crude swamp cooler" "doesn't make indoors any damper".

You said a "crude swamp cooler". What you were advocating was far more complex requiring heat exchanges.

Th only fool is one who says a "crude swamp cooler" "doesn't make indoors any damper".

If it doesn't humidify the air it isn't a "crude swamp cooler".

Yup, disingenuous at the least.

Cheers, T i m

I am confused by your explanation, pictures would help...

Time to put up or shut up.

You're not grown up enough to admit you've hopelessly misunderstood what has been said. I described 2 different evaporative cooling systems and stated clearly what I do here.

I have already described what I do here in this thread. It's as basic as it gets.

For the benefit of those unable to read:

NT

You will post something that requires reading huh?

Fortunately we can read, and we did read that.

and that.

However here is the problem, the big stonking steaming turd of a problem, that has wasted all this time...

What you describe in your second paragraph is in no way shape or form a "crude swap cooler" or any other type of swamp cooler for that matter.

It does not look like a swamp cooler.

It does not work like a swamp cooler.

All you describe is cooling a flat roof by flooding it with water. Evaporative cooling hardly comes into it (it will get most of its latest heat of vaporisation from solar gain directly).

Its not cooling an airflow directly either. Yes it will lower the internal temperature of the surface, and hence the heat radiated by it, or coupled to it via convection, but a swamp cooler its not.

So given that your statement:

"I use a crude swamp cooling setup here when it hits heatwave" is blatantly wrong.

(Whether this is down to sloppy terminology, a poor grasp of what swamp coolers actually are, or how they work, or just a giant porky hand waving fib I don't know).

I think you owe us an apology... Man enough?

But you never explained how a "crude swamp cool" wouldn't "make indoors any damper". I concede you proposed a "complex swamp cooler" that incorporated heat exchangers and the like.

Which is not generally described to be a "swamp cooler". It is immensely inefficient if the roof has any insulation. I can only assume you have insufficient insulation, certainly a lot less than you credit, if you feel the cooling effect is significant.

But not a "crude swamp cooler".

I have misunderstood nothing when you claim, a "crude swamp cooler" "doesn't make indoors any damper".

You're not grown up enough to admit this was tripe.

Neither of which can be described as a "crude swamp cooler" that "doesn't make indoors any damper"."

There are many ways the swamp cooling principle can be used, and one that is most popular. Of course the above is not the most popular one, it's a cruder approach.

depends how you define efficiency. In terms of action & power required to cool the house, it's good on efficiency, despite most of the cooling effect being lost to the wind.

It's plenty for all except the absolute worst heatwave days - on those it's not.

you're making it up again.

NT