Plume from heating boiler

Dec 04, 2023 Last reply: 2 years ago 47 Replies

The initial balance only really does two things - first balance the rad outputs, but also set conditions for when the system is bring the house up to temp. Once it is up to temp and it is just maintaining, that is where you will need a decent modulation range to avoid short cycling etc. It is also why you have an interlock to stop the system when the house is satisfied.

Well the balancing bit will make sure that no rooms are not starved of heat by other areas. The balance won't be able to maintain an overall TDelta for the whole system once it is warm. Modulating pumps can help there though.

The problem is of course how does he tell whether his plume is smaller because

  • the exhaust is too hot
  • most of the moisture is condensing inside the boiler.

They would appear to have the same appearance, but opposite efficiency.

Andy

There seems to be a lot of variety in the Baxi 830 range so you would need to be more specific.

Mine is a Combi boiler (no hot water tank, just instant* hot water).

But as yours is a current model I would expect it to perform more efficiently and have additional features.

*instant means waiting for the boiler to kick in, then waiting for the water to get hot, then waiting for it to arrive at the tap.

Does it not have a pre-heat option? Many combis can keep a couple of litres of water "tempered" and ready to go, so you get skip some of the warm up time and get a response more like that from a stored water system.

The big problem with these is that they’re often cryptically and non-intuitively labelled (like the “Turbo” button on PCs of old). Often just as “Eco” without any explanation of whether it should be on or off to economise.

It’s also pretty wasteful of gas (like the old pilot lights), needlessly keeping a reservoir of water warm at night when you don’t need instant response.

Tim

It was the cycling of my old Ideal Logic boiler that did it for me - it made quite a bit of noise, plus the pump overrun. Also there was no reservoir - it'd just heat the internal circuit, so of little actual benefit.

Quite often the "eco" setting turns off the hot water tempering.

Depends on how much it keeps and how well insulated.

Not on my 2006 Baxi 195HE.

Under consideration for its replacement, or a small under sink electric. Probably could get away with a solar panel on the front of the house except regulations would say 60° required.

Water still has 20m to go from boiler to kitchen sink.

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