Phone wiring (Virgin)

It was probably wrong of VM to use the T box, but no matter.

The "crimps" you se are probably IDC jelly filled connectors

Just rewire to a master socket using 2 or 3 pair telephone wire or even solid core CAT5.

Don't worry about the BT line, if you ever need to use it again you will have a spare pair to connect it up.

Graham. wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Yes - there are two jelly crimps (wondered what they were). Do I only need to worry about these two cores then?

If so, then could I abandon the BT grey box with a sliding cover and wire back to the brown VM box?

Yes, that is the ideal way, as I said strictly speaking VM shouldn't have been using BTs existing cable to get into your house.

Yes, just the two wires, just make sure you pick two in your new cable that are mutually twisted together, convention dictates you use the blue & white + white & blue pair first, but it doesn't really matter.

Graham. wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Many thanks. I assume that VM hooked into the nearby BT box to avoid re- wiring the master socket in the house. Just a couple of feet of cable needed instead of many metres.

In article , DerbyBorn writes

Ignoring any legal issues, they have royally fookd any chance of you or a subsequent occupier going back to BT for anything less than a full install charge.

I have looked in the brown VM box and can confirm that two cores link across to the old BT Box.

Could I just take a new cable from an internal master socket to the VM Box? Do I have to use 6 core even though only 2 are used? What is the legallity?

You have some spares... just make sure you pick a pair ie the same colour plus white for each wire. Normally it would be white/blue blue/white for the A and B wires.

You shouldn't be messing with anything before the Master Socket. Strictly speaking VM shouldn't have hi-jacked the grey BT box outside, the BT wiring and the BT box inside but run their own cable from their external box to their own internal box.

. Normally it would be white/blue

Hi-jack sums it up I guess. VM fitted their own Master Socket alongside the BT one and moved the BT cable across to it (but oddly left 2 cores connected in the BT Master Socket. I was hoping to avoid paying VM to re-route my internal wiring. Guess I just might DIY it and claim the builder did it!

Are we sure the OP hasn't got an external BT NTE?

It's not difficult, make a neat job with suitable cable and parts and any engineer who visits won't bat an eyelid. Just don't do it in the rain, soaking wet, as the 50 V DC does hurt. DAMHIKT...

OP has described a Block Terminal 66B (small grey box with sliding lid).

I have a Brown VM box that has a couple of feet of cable running to the BT External Grey Box with a lid that slides up. Inside I have a Master Socket supplied by Virgin - next to one supplied by BT

DerbyBorn wrote in news:XnsA1C8AF45255B0johnplant90ntlworldc@81.171.92.236:

I believe my internal socket is a NTE5 socket - with unpluggable half faceplate.