Looking at strimmer/brush cutter for clearing largish overgrown area.
Seeems to be a number of X in 1 devices with hedge trimmer/ chainsaw attachments around.
It`s likely to be a one time major clearance and then minor maintenance after so not looking for daily use quality but putting chainsaw and cheap in same sentence worries me...
Any advice or experience?
On Sat, 06 Aug 2016 06:18:41 -0700, Adam Aglionby wrote:
I've had a Mitox brushcutter/strimmer for about 10 years now and it gets
a regular workout. No problems with it. I've now got a Mitox multi as I
needed a pole hedgecutter and chainsaw but the cost of those separately
was more than the multi kit which came with a brushcutter/strimmer
attachment. Hedgecutter and pole chainsaw both work fine. Strimmer part
will no doubt prove useful when I get halfway through a job only to find
that the reel has emptied and will allow me to rewind at my leisure.
Hmm - gone up by £50 since I bought.
Advantage for me in Mitox is that the local ag merchant has them and he
is very good at getting any bits that may be required (nothing for the
Mitoxes so far)
That's funny, given I've just posted that Mitox stuff is pretty poor. The
aluminium castings are incredibly soft - I've had to drill out a couple
of self tappers & put bolts all the way through to hold bits together,
the cam mechanism in the head of my long reach hedge cutters failed after
about 18 months & when I came to use them a couple of weeks ago, there
was a huge crack in the fuel tank. I wouldn't buy any more of it.
OTOH, I have a ~15 y/o Fuji "Robin" brushcutter which has been brilliant.
Never broken, starts easily first time, works like a champ.
Today is Pungenday, the 72nd day of Confusion in the YOLD 3182
I don't have an attitude problem.
I bought a Titan Multi-tool from Screwfix.
It lasted 20 minutes before the shaft seemed to seize up. At full power
the engine sounded it was producing power but no turning shaft, even
without an attachment connected. When turned by hand the shaft was very
It seems you get what you pay for.
On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 21:09:56 +0100, Michael Chare
<snip> >> It seems you get what you pay for.
And why most of the professionals use them.
But what do they say, 'buy cheap buy twice' and not all of the cr&p
stuff is that cheap?
One good thing about Stihl is that you can get spares (and pattern
versions) easily, should you need them, meaning you can protect your
investment even longer.
Cheers, T i m
Don't know about advice, but take what you want from my experience.
The first one I had was a Ryobi two stroke. It was ok and had enough
power to drive the various tools I had for it (line head, hedge trimmer,
chainsaw pruner). It did not last that long before it appeared to ingest
a part of its own carb, and the results were not pretty:
I replaced it (on a spur of a moment) with a 4 stroke ryobi that was on
sale at a cash and carry (paid about £75 for it!). That was far less
satisfactory. Heavier, less powerful, slower revving. It also had a
habit of stalling when you held it at the wrong angle, or the fuel tank
was less than half full. Over time it got progressively harder to keep
running at all. Even after attempting to set the tuning up better, it
was getting close to impossible to get useful periods of work out of it.
Turns out that major engine components (like the cam shaft and the push
rods) are made out of plastic, and as it gets warm they wear
increasingly quickly. So before long the timing is all to pot and you
So at that point I decided I was done with toy tools, and discovered
that the ryobi attachments can be persuaded to work on Stihl power
heads. Ordered a Stihl KM 94RC-E engine from FR Jones & Son (about £245)
and have not looked back. Its in a completely different class. Lighter,
smaller, more powerful, freer revving, can run properly at part throttle
as well. Easier to start. Never stalls or cuts out, lovely machine to
use. I would have been much cheaper and easier if I had bought one in
the first place!
Nice pictures John and a nice overview of what can happen with these
things. I predicted a dead Stihl blower as suffering something similar
(low compression, wouldn't even fire on Easy-start) and to prove the
point to someone who suggested it was just a carb fault, replaced the
piston ring and it ran again. Not well of course as the bore was badly
scored and the big end was f*d.
I can also recommend FR Jones (as a customer).
And why all ('most' ? ... some are into their 'Husky stuff') pros use
Stihl gear. I was waiting at some roadworks the other day and watched
a team cutting a concrete lamppost off just above the access door with
a Stihl Cutoff saw. One guy on the saw, one guy on a water dispenser
and another in the crane ready to catch it. ;-)
'Buy cheap, buy twice'.
Except, *sometimes* you can find a cheaper tool that does just happen
to work and last but it's often too much of a lottery, compared with
investing in a 'known quantity'.
And as you say, ideally it's not just about 'will it start' and 'can
it keep running' but when it's working, does it work well and make the
Cheers, T i m
I have a Ryobi 4-stroke with many Expand-it attachments. After some
adjustments I find it very reliable. If you search the internet for
'problems with Ryobi 4-stroke' you will find lots of people with the
same problem. The mixture adjustment often drifts too weak and you
get the symptoms you describe. Once you've twigged this and have the
required 'pac-man' adjustment tool then the Ryobi can be made to run
very well. Mine gets heavy use as we have 9 acres of paddocks to
Yup I have the pac man tool, and spent many hours reading / watching
lots of the info out there. Alas no amount of re-tuning would make up
for a knackered cam profile.
It may be later models have starting using metal in critical places and
they have improved, I have not paid much attention to it since. However
the key point remains, that its performance even when new did not match
the two stroke version, and neither come close to the Stihl.
I had a 2-stroke before the 4-stroke, I never got on well with it. I
don't find the 4-stroke underpowered.
I did have one other fault which stopped it running well, an air leak
(I assume) in the petrol feed system, just dirt I think because taking
it apart and putting it back together (just the plastic pump thing on
top of the carb) fixed it.
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