Pan connector collar - help!!

This is for a 1970-built house. I bought a toilet pan connector, but it comes nowhere near fitting the current arrangement.

Here are some pictures:

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(There are actually two toilets pictured, one that's failed and one that's still working.)

The pan has an outlet with a diameter of 4 3/8" (4.375")

The soil pipe looks like it might be a standard 4" one, but it has a bend and enlargement to around 5.5" diameter. It's all in solvent weld plastic.

The pan slots into the enlarged bit, with a black rubber collar round it

- see the pictures. There are no seals inside the pipe.

Does anyone know where to get the black collar from, or even what it's called? I could go back to scratch, cut most of the the pipe off, and go from there. But that's a bit drastic, compared to simply fitting a new collar.

Reply to
GB
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In article , GB writes

This will do if you're just under 5 1/2" on the big end (will do 136mm):

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fred

In message , GB writes

Dunno, I has something like that dating from probably the 60/70's - though I had a white rubber bit IIRC. Presumably the equivalent of the modern pan connector. I just cut my pipe back and used a modern pan connector. The pipe upto the widedend end seemed to be standard soil pipe size.

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chris French

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The usual thing to do is cut off the old outlet pipe and fit a new one, without the large collar piece. Or, buy an extender piece, shove that into the old pipe, cut it to size (before or after, whichever is easier), then fit the pan connector you have bought. Looking at yours, I'd be cutting off the old one completely, you may get away with using one of these:

Reply to
A.Lee

Yes, I installed a few of those back then - Osma, and they did different size grommets to fit in the socket. Alan's solution is the way to go - cut off the elbow and use a 90 pan connector.

Reply to
Tony Bryer

Thanks all for confirming what I feared I had to do. $*&^%$£"!!!!

Reply to
GB

Ity's not that hard :-)

Mine was ina bit of an awkward position. After sawing it off I did find a multitool useful for trimming it more neatly

Reply to
chris French

It's going to be fiddly, as I want to put the pan in exactly its original position. The (now 40 years old vinyl tiles) were trimmed round it. So, I'm going to have to mess around with extenders and so on. I'd far rather just find the right collar.

Reply to
GB

I'd probably use a pan connector with a flexible soil pipe end as that will make aligning everything much easier

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chris French

In article , GB writes

Is there something wrong with the one I linked to above?

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Reply to
fred

I think the connector is probably slightly too small. Otherwise it's perfect. I will remeasure when I get near the toilet again. At the moment, it's 150 miles away.

Reply to
GB

I've just looked around a bit more, and these people have a huge range. I expect they charge several arms and legs, but it may be worth it.

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GB

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