Plenty of company car drivers are in possession of vehicles they don't own. IME it's unusual for the employee to be the registered keeper, but it certainly could be (the police even recommend it).
Yerrs, Guv. The one wiv the car details on it annat.
That might be a problem if you didn't know the paperwork had been stolen. But would be when you came to renew the VED.
There's no such thing as a registered *owner*, only a registered
*keeper*. It may sound like pedantry but it is a key distinction.Mathew
Lawful possession is the advantage you have in claiming ownership of anything.
To quote from the Wikipedia page on possession being 9/10ths of the law:
In message , Tim Streater writes
Yes, the one which only transfers registration, not ownership.
Presumably because it enables them to nail down who is responsible for the speeding ticket more easily - registered keeper.
In message , ss writes
It has everything to do with owning it and the fact that as the OP has highlighted it is impossible to prove who is the owner, anymore than you can prove you own your mobile phone. This ruse was used by car owners to avoid penalties in the past and so the concept of registered keeper was introduced.
Pardon my french, but that's complete and utter bollocks.
When you buy a car (excluding finance etc etc) you own it. Its not like freehold land where ultimately the crown owns it. Its just an ordinary chattel.
I do wish people wouldn't spout such complete nonsense.
Matt
It doesn't transfer ownership, just the responsibility to make sure it's taxed, insured, MOT'd, pay the fines, etc.
How do you 'prove' you own anything? AFAIK, apart from land, there's no obligation to, or method of, registering property.
Don't think that is true ... otherwise hire companies, fleet cars etc. would not be able to pass on fines.
In Law the driver of any vehicle is responsible for it at the time he is drivi9ng it.
The registered keeper of a vehicle has a duty in law to advise who was driving it at the time of any offence.
On 16/03/2012 6:04 PM, Hugo Nebula wrote: that transfer ownership to them and are you then not buggered?
Usually by producing the bill of sale ... which you received when you purchased
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