Outside Tap

Nothing. It's just Mary being her usual, tiresome, holier-than-thou self.

I'd echo the comment about the plumbing. Get a proper joint fitted, not one of those pipe cutter things. They cut a tiny hole and the flow is terrible.

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Bob Eager
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I think you should fit a thermostatic mixer to ensure you can't scald anything Something like

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not cheap but you are doing odd things and hosepipes in general don't like hot water.

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Reply to
dennis

As others have said, avoid the screw in ones, as they are rubbish, mainly due to them potentially releasing a small disk of metal into your system, and also the flow rate is really poor from them, as the hole they cut into the pipe is quite small.

One thing I haven't read in any replies, is having a temperature limit on the tap. Would the pure hot not be too hot for your needs?

If so, I suggest you get a mixing valve like this

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(Link to Screwfix part number 47812) This is a 22mm one, you only really need a 15mm one, but Screwfix don't seem to have one)

This connects to both the hot and cold feed, then delivers water at the temperature you pre select (This needs to stay inside, not used like a mixer tap!).

Toby...

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Toby

The more the tap is on the cooler it is. very slow is very hot, the water looks white. faster flow and you can sit under it like in the shower, its fine. I need to rethink this and get someone out who is prepared to do the job properly. You are all right, flow will be very important especially rinsing off German Shepherds and Collies, also rinsing down their area i will definately need a good flow. The cut into the pipe isnt going to cut the mustard I think.

I will do a list of what I need from SF and get the parts in. i know a plumber a friend of a friend who I dont like o bother as he is always busy i am sure if I get the parts he will fit it for me.

Thjanks again people. Once again a great help.

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Reply to
Samantha Booth

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Samantha Booth" saying something like:

I wouldn't. Happy dog bathing.

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Samantha Booth" saying something like:

None of his business what you want it for or how. There's nothing to stop you having a hot outlet outside as far as I know. Indeed, all the commercial vehicle washers couldn't function if they didn't have it. I can think of a dozen farmers near me who have it in various forms, most with a dedicated outside heater, a couple with a feed from the house.

In short, he's talking bollocks.

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

Thanks Dave and once again my sincere appologies for getting you wrong. I am quite quick to bite lately and shouldnt be but generally feel like death warmed up, thats not an excuse. Sorry

Reply to
Samantha Booth

In theory what you want to do does not sound too difficult. Two possible problems spring to mind though: Some of the garden tap kits that use a flexible rubber hose to make the link between self cutting valve and the outside tap, may not be rated for high temperatures. Since you have a combi, your hot water will be at mains pressure, so it is important to not use something that will soften significantly when hot.

The other possible problem is that you will have no real control of temperature, other than by turning the tap on hard enough to prevent the combi having time to heat the water too much, or by setting the limit stat on the combi to something hand (and dog!) safe.

If it were me, I would use proper plumbing bits and not a tap kit. A push fit tee, some pipe (plastic liek hepworth or speedfit would be fine), a service valve, and an external tap. Chop a small section of pipe out (having turned off the cold water valve on the inlet to the combi, and turned the combi off). Insert the tee, pipe to a service valve (this is so you can turn off the outside tap should you need), and from there through a hole in the wall to a suitable outside tap. Lag well.

Reply to
John Rumm

It may sound a bit daft, but if you have a cold pipe close to the hot one, why not get a cheap bar mixer type thermostatic shower[1], and mount that outside? That way you have an ideal spray and hose for the dogs, and can chose a temperature to suit.

[1] Makro often do Bristan mixers for about £50+vat, like the one I used here:

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Reply to
John Rumm

OK, that's fair enough. Remember to lag the pipes well or you'll be wasting money.

Mary

Reply to
Mary Fisher

========================================= It sounds from your description that you might have a 'multi-point' water heater. IF this is the case you will probably have an adjustment knob on the front to give you a different range of flow rates / temperatures. Turning it to the lowest temperature will give you a greater flow but the lowest temperature may be too low in very cold weather.

Cic.

Reply to
Cicero

Toolstation do one complete with riser rail hose and head for less than that inc VAT

Reply to
YAPH

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Samantha Booth" saying something like:

Oh, you didn't get me wrong - it's just you're not my target today. :)

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

Probably not, if you wash the dog and then don't use it for a few hours it will be cold even if lagged. If you frequently use the tap then lagging will save money.

Lagging may stop it freezing, but may not. If there is a longish run outside then plastic pipe doesn't burst when it freezes but the taps might.

Reply to
dennis

Do they? had not looked recently...

(the Bristan one is also the full kit)

Reply to
John Rumm

Of course it's not daft! Stop worrying about it - if you have a valid reason for wanting hot water there then that's fine. Accidentally leaving the tap running would be the greatest worry. It will always be fine with normal fittngs - very fine if mains pressure hot water, otherwise (if from a header tank) it may be a little slow (especially with the deprecated self cutting kit, which I also would avoid). Lag what you can and isolate internally in the winter as with any outside tap. I would put it next to a cold tap as, if the water gets to hot it would be inconvenient. If it were me I would mount two taps over a belfast sink or similar at ground level, which could also be used when needed.

Good luck

Reply to
Bob Mannix

I read in one of the trade mags that the check valve must be fitted indoors nowadays, as they are destroyed by frost outdoors.

Reply to
Andrew Gabriel

I had one indoors knackerd by the outside tap freezing - the water expansion jammed the second piston of the double check valve such that it would not open. Had to remove it in the end, making it a single check valve.

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John Rumm

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