Outside Tap

I'd be concerned about thermal expansion too. When heated, holes get bigger. So if you tapped into the pipe when it was cold, then ran h/w through it you might find it started leaking - maybe not much but it's something to bear in mind. The cyclic heating/cooling may also affect the tightness of the connection, so it might work loose.

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pete
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I may have asked this before but cannot see the replies. I want to fit an outside tap on the dog run down the side of the house. I can tap into an exsisting hot supply no problem and fit the tap. Thing is I am getting a tap kit from B&Q will there be any problem with the fittings they supply with it going onto the hot pipe rather than the normal cold pipe. Its the "screw into the exsisting pipe" kind of fitting.

I specifically want a hot tap outside to wash up after the dogs and to bath them outside. The boile doesnt kick in till the taps a quarter of the way on anyway so even if I have a drip outside its not going to effect the boiler.

Look forward as always to your replies. Oh and I am not fitting it I have roped in a friend to help me with all the jobs I cannot do anymore.

Thanks again all

Sam

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Samantha Booth

Why do you want to fit an external tap on a hot supply?

Mary

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Mary Fisher

So I can bath my many dogs, clean up after them, wash the car and also hot water cleans better than cold and I need the area to be as clean as I can possibly get it. I have a cold suply outside at the rear of the house, this will be a hot supply down the side. Its definately hot I want not cold.

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Samantha Booth

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Mary Fisher" saying something like:

OFM.

"I specifically want a hot tap outside to wash up after the dogs and to bath them outside."

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Grimly Curmudgeon

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:46:40 +0100 someone who may be "Samantha Booth" wrote this:-

Fitting it into what sounds like a mains pressure hot water pipe will be no different to fitting it to a mains pressure cold water pipe. However, I would avoid the '"screw into the exsisting pipe" kind of fitting' and instead fit a proper fitting, a compression or soldered one for copper pipes.

A '"screw into the exsisting pipe" kind of fitting' may release pieces of pipe wall into the pipe, which will then trundle along the pipe until they find something to interfere with. If they don't do that they are likely to make a small cut into the pipe, which will restrict the flow rate to the new tap.

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David Hansen

And what exactly is wrong with that? I need the dogs to stay outside for the forseeable future and to be washed out there too, they are working dogs. This is what I do in my spare time and one of the ways I make a living. I am not into pampering dogs like you obviously think. I have a specialist search dog who requires baths when he has been out working and is filthy. With my cancer I cannot allow him in the house for fear of infection at this time, so he will require bathing outside. Hope that clears up the OFM.

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Samantha Booth

copper pipe and compression fittings .It is not that hard to do.

Kind Regards

Micky Leeds UK.

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Micky Savage

I wouldnt even think of buying a ready made kit from B+Q et al. They are rubbish - what you expect for £10ish.

Buy a length of 15mm copper pipe for £7 or so, buy the other bits from Screwfix - a tap with check valve is £4.60, a union for the tap, complete with pipe to go through the wall is £3.60, a stop/isolating valve will be £1.50, a 15mm compression T fitting and 15mm 90deg comp. fitting will be a £1 or so each.You'll only need 30cm or so of copper pipe, so if you already have a spare length of pipe, then the cost will work out around the same, with far better quality components.

If possible, have the outside tap below the level of the isolating tap inside, then you can turn off the iso tap, and open the outside tap to get the water out of it during bad frosts. If that is not possible, then try and fit a drain off somwhere before the pipe goes outside to enable it to be drained easily, just in case we do have a bad frost spell. Alan.

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A.Lee

Right then I will ask him to fit the proper fittings and bypass the B&Q stuff, thanks for that. Its knowing just what to get that's the problem. I know it may sound daft getting a hot tap outside but I have very valid reasons for doing so. I aint a doggy poodle parlour loony? Or at least I wasnt last time I looked.

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Samantha Booth

Absolutely nothing Sam. It was an expression about Mary not reading your whole post before comenting with a bit of a stupid question as you'd already made it very clear why.

Hence the Inverted commas as he re-quoted your original post.

:¬)

Pete

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www.GymRatZ.co.uk

I think Dave's comment was aimed at Mary, not you.

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Andy Burns

Yes my appologies I got it wrong. I thought someone was having another go at me.

I have had a plumber here today refusing to do the job, he said I shouldnt have a hot feed outside. I explained I have cancer and that if I was to get an infection or bug that it would probably kill me before the cancer does. he just laughed at me and told me knowone in their right minds has a hot tap outdoors. I need it to wash the dogs so they dont bring into the house any germs or i can limit to a point what they bring in. If I have to work them they normally cme back very dirty, can be stood in poo from fox poo to deer poo and I need to wash them BEFORE they enter the house. I am just tying to rule out another infection as I dont have the white cells to combat them like normal people.

So sorry again Dave I entirely got the wrong end of the stick there and put my foot in my mouth. I thought you had said OFM someone wants a hot tap for their dogs and clearly now I understand you didnt. My humble apologies.

Thanks you two for clearing it up for me. I shall now go an dremmel my toe nails off till it hurts, then staple my gob shut firmly.

:(

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Samantha Booth

I think these cheap'n'nasty outside tap kits use a pretty naff bit of hosepipe to connect to the tap. This may just scrape by for cold supply but a combination of hot water and mains pressure (if your hot water is off a combi as you imply) could be too much for it.

As others have suggested: do the job properly :-)

Depending on location I'd be thinking of using a combined wallplate with through-pipe (Screwfix 82202, also available from Toolstation) with a tap combining a double-check valve (Sfx 11958, or 11558 for a Pegler), and on the supply side whatever fits your existing pipework: possibly involving a

15mm compression Tee, a service isolation valve and maybe a flexible tap connector.

Loctite thread-sealing tape (plumbers' dental floss :-)) is great for sealing the tap thread to the wall plate.

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YAPH

Could you have the hot tap fitted inside the house and run a hose with a spray head outside (maybe through the wall)?

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OG

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:36:28 +0100 someone who may be "Samantha Booth" wrote this:-

Not a very good businessman by the sound of it.

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David Hansen

He didnt want the jon before he knew what it was really. It was a waste of time.

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Samantha Booth

another go at

apologies.

I've just finished refurbishing a barn that was previously used as a greyhound training kennels. There was an outside tap supplying hot water to wash the dogs when they'd been excercised in our rather wet field in the winter - nothing at all odd about that, just common sense. If the plumber doesn't want the job tell him to sling his hook and get another one!

AWEMb

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Andrew Mawson

But he might have done so with grace instead of what sounds to have been unpleasantness.

You can see the original thread here:

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When I fitted a new outside tap a few months ago, I used Hep2O pipe and internal stop valve. Made life nice and easy - and provides a marginally enhanced level of frost protection.

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Rod

You must have checked this but how hot does the water get?

Mine gets scalding hot.

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Bartc

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