Because you know they've "had a go myself" and you're going to have to quote
them 1 hour to do the job and 9 hours to put right what they've broken??
Plus another trip to Wickes to get the *right* materials....
A friend of mine often sees this and finds that the chinese made item
that they have purchased in an up-market shop for hundreds is complete
shite and he could have supplied a quality item for a quarter of the
price (including his mark-up)
Yes exactly. That's why this happens:
"I've been to Wickes and bought the aerial and a booster and all the
other bits. How much will you charge to come and fix it on the roof?"
"How much did you spend at Wickes?"
"About a hundred and twenty quid."
"OK. Well take it all back and get your money back, and give it to us,
and we'll supply and install a far better aerial, one that's actually
the correct type for the location, with a stronger fixing and a far
better amp, for just £30 more. Alternatively, we'll install what you've
got for £100 but there will be no warranties whatsoever from us on the
materials and the reception will not be our responsibility."
I don't think it's always cut-and-dried. If you want something done
that's a little unusual, it could be difficult and expensive to find
someone who will do it.
I would really like to see coax clipped in some way to tenement
buildings, especially at the roof edges, but no one does that.
Too difficult when they're three or four stories high and each flat has
traditional high ceilings.
So the cables just swing in the wind.
(Not that I know how one could do better. I'd imagine cherry pickers
cost too much.)
I'm hugely impressed by the skill of some tradesmen, and totally
underwhelmed by others. I'm no kind of a craftsman, I'm as slow as all
hell, but I'm better than some of them.
Recently I was happy to pay someone to lay carpet for me. But if I
hadn't first moved the furniture, removed the old carpet, screwed down
a loose floorboard, and put down some new springy underlay, I would
have been charged quite a bit more and very likely nothing would have
been done about the floorboard. (Which was loose because some tradesman
in the past had installed a ring main, without proper cable protection
above the notched joists. I was going to nail, but luckily I looked
As a matter of curiosity, do you pay a plumber his normal rates when
you need to have minor plumbing work done?
Windmill, snipped-for-privacy@NoneHome.com Use t m i l l
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Big Orange Retail Giant.
"In newsgroup rec.woodworking and several Internet forums for
woodworking hobbyist (i.e. www.sawmillcreek.org) the term BORG can be
found as an acronym for Big Orange Retail Giant. This is a derogatory
term for large retail home improvement stores. One large chain of retail
home improvement stores uses the color orange for its corporate image.
The term BORG is applied to all large retail home improvement stores in
its usage on the above Internet locations. The Star Trek cross-reference
to BORG is related to the demise of local hardware stores that supplied
woodworking hobbyist due to what appeared to be mindless and ruthless
business practices of the big retail home improvement stores".
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
What's the problem with that? You just do the job with those materials
without any warranty  on them and charge them extra (cost plus and
travelling) when/if you have to change the materials to suit the job.
BTW, what's the difference between you assembling customer supplied
flat-pack furniture and using any materials supplied by them? The same
priciple applies to both scenarios as you may or may not get all of the
bits, or even the correct bits in the flat-pack - and you never wrote those
immortal words "Why does my heart sink...." in this group then.
"[they] have asked for advice" - Erm, isn't that a little hypocritical of
you, as that's precisely what you do here and at other places for the most
basic of tasks?
BORG - WTF is a "BORG" BTW?
 You only offer a warranty then for defective workmanship - simples!
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 11:14:49 +0100, The Medway Handyman
Usually, cheaper, nastier stuff that doesn't fit right or takes an age
to fiddle around getting pipes to seal or bracketsin the wrong places,
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