The main cause of Novovirus transmission on cruise ships is inadequate
hand washing by the passengers. This study goes into the subject in
As for the article you link to, are you saying that wiping your bum with
paper is more hygienic than washing it?
I know of an unpublished trial on bioburden in lavatories, carried out
by a pharmaceutical company. The results were broadly in agreement with
the article I posted. The bioburden on the handles on the way out was
found to be negligible, as most people washed their hands before
leaving. The handles on the way in had higher bioburdens, although still
no more than the general environment. However, they used well maintained
roller towels, which, with paper towels, are more effective at removing
bioburden than hot air hand dryers.
On Wednesday, 6 December 2017 12:27:06 UTC, Nightjar wrote:
ion have installed hot air blowers and auto on lights that are left on 24/7
I thought they were there to clean hands rather than get an administator a
promotion, any ideas why they installed auto on/off lights in the toilets,
then in less than two months have decided to leave them on 24/7 probbaly 3
is that also so they cost less to maintain ?
I have been on several cruises and have witnessed a number of men emerging
from a cubicle and then not washing their hands before leaving. No wonder
gastric infections spread like wild fire. My wife has seen the same in the
women's loos, with the added problem (which seems to be more common in
women's loos) that some people don't even lock the door so she has
inadvertently walked in on people on the loo. (*)
If we use public loos (as opposed to the one in our cabin) we always open
the door with a paper towel on the way our after washing our hands, and
always use the bactericidal hand gel as we go in for a meal, either in the
canteen or the restaurant.
We also take a ziplock bag and put the TV remote in it, operating it through
the bag: apparently TV remotes are often contaminated with faecal bacteria
and often don't get cleaned by the stewards between cruises.
So far we have avoided gastric infections by these simple (although maybe
(*) Why is it that some women don't seem to like locking the cubicle door?
They then get annoyed if someone walks in, as if you should know that this
door which says "vacant" is occupied whereas that one really is vacant. I
don't think I've ever encountered it in men's loos, although admittedly it's
less common for men to use a cubicle so I'm working from a smaller sample
On Wednesday, 6 December 2017 13:12:40 UTC, NY wrote:
I've never been on a cruise ship but I know what happens in some pub toilet
s and what happens here.
I've heard women say they always wash their hands.
That's women I guess.
Good idea I've asked for similar here as I 'handle'/ students they hand thi
ngs to me and I hand them things.
I guess I'm lucky not being the cruiser type.
How do you think this equates to such things as computer labs where 100s of
studetns share computers and chairs and then they complain that we stopped
them eating sandwhiches and teh lioke in the lab, some bring trsys of food
in straight from the canteen, but I always insist they leave the lab.
I have too then by mot going on crusie ships.
Why ask me. :-0
It's be interestign if Mr S Khan goes ahead with the insistance that all ne
w public toilets are dual/triple/LBGTQ/RGB/TTL/RIP whatever.
I wonder if the women will still refuse to lock the doors if men use the sa
They should still be cleaned to limit the buildup of dust in them
(a significant proportion of which is feaces), and is blown back
over your moist hands just after you cleaned them.
Of course, they never are cleaned and are disgusting to open up
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