After looking at countless phones, the only thing I have managed to do
is eliminate Page Plus. I am told that, although it does do Georgia,
the service is poor. It is a shame too. I was sold on the 12
package that does 250 min and 10M data.
I was going to go with an expensive phone so I would be able to use
all the features of a smart phone, but since I don't use them often, I
was hoping to get a cheap package.
Do any of the prepaid packages offer limited smart phone features? One
of the Page Plus phones I looked at said GPS. Would GPS be considered
part of a data plan?
GPS is a separate radio that looks at the satellites.
You don't need any data plan for that.
The real problem is, what can you do with the gps data?
If you need to find yourself on a map, then you need web access.
I have a Palm Treo 850 with GPS. I use it as a PDA without any phone
There used to be a software package from Mapopolis. It runs directly
on the phone/pda in Windows Mobile or PalmOS.
So, I can tell where I am from GPS without a data plan. Mapopolis
left the consumer business. Don't know if there are alternatives today.
You can also do the same with most any bluetooth PDA/Phone with a mapping
application using a separate bluetooth GPS receiver.
There are other services that imply GPS, but are actually location
services that estimate where you are from the cell towers you can see.
I think google took it further by looking at wifi hosts you can see.
Mapping requires data plan. The GPS alone can give you lattitude and
longitude, and in some cases altitude. Smart phone apps are available
that will make it into a speedometer and rate of climb indicator
without data plan.
Ask yourself why you NEED GPS???????
If you just wanna get from here to there, figger it out online
before you go and print a map or take notes.
GPS shines when you get lost or confused or detoured or change plans.
If you travel by car, get a cheapo self-contained GPS appliance.
They're small enough to fit in your pocket if needed.
Costs less than the data plan you'll need for something rarely used.
Don't leave it visible in the car. The broken window costs way
more than the GPS they stole.
GPS is of little use when you don't control the means of transport.
The bus driver ain't gonna go where you want. And if
it's too far to walk, you don't need GPS in your pocket.
There are always exceptions.
Although sometimes they only have wired in the room and wireless in
Because my plane was late and I missed the connection, they gave me
an a day, 10AM to 5PM, at the Heathrow Hilton and I requested
Internet in my room for the laptop, which was no problem and no
charge, except it meant the room had a shower and no bathtub! And
iirc somehow, and now I can't imagine how, it took me more time to use
the wired than the wireless downstairs would have taken. . I'd never
used wired with this laptop before, so maybe that had something to do
I also find that if there's both wired and wireless that the wired is
faster because so few people are using it.
When we bought a tablet we at first were going to buy an iPad to support
the local economy, but it had too many drawbacks as something to take on
trips, the biggest ones being the lack of a USB port or memory card
slot. Not a problem when you're at home, or when you have another
computer to dock with, but a big problem when traveling with only the
One of the good things about the Internet is so much information out
One of the bad things about the Internet is there is so much
information out there.
I am getting information overload with these phones.
I'm still not sure of the details but you can get a lot more phones on
prepaid than the phone companies seem to suggest.
I just bought a Huawei some number, called a Fusion Phone, with
Android. I'm not particularly recommending it, becuase there don't
seem to be a lot of Apps for it. OTOH, maybe I don't know how to
But I bring it up because ATT sells it as a Gophone, online and in
stores (or !25 at Walmart, but 100 at walmart.com). This comes with a
setup for data, etc.
But I bought mine used, and took the sim card from my very cheap
prepaid gophone (I thought all gophones were prepaid, and maybe they
were when I first got one, but they're not anymore iiuc) and put the
sim card in my new phone, turned off the Data, in the settings, and
now I have no Internet, except, get thks, whereever there is wifi.
which is a lot of places these days and growing. And it seems that
wifi is faster than cellphone data anyhow.
Ther3e is also a settting to turn GPS on and off, and I have the vague
aidea that GPS might be satelite and not cellphone data.
(That confuses me however. Using the Android Maps app, last Sunday I
was in a rural area, too far from any house to get wifi unless their
wifi is a whole lot more powerful than my brother's etc., and it
showed me where I was, on a map with no street names, but wchich did
have a state highway number. A few days later I was in the city,
but probably also not near wifi, and it gave me the location from
sunday, and when I got home, where i have wifi, it still gave the
location from Sunday. I think GPS is turned on but I' ntot sure and
the phone is upstairs.)
In fact on the ATT newsgroup, they pointed me to an ATT page which
sells if I have the prepaid smart phone, I CANT buy data. (I was
afraid I would use it accidentally, as I did with phone number 2.)
Another interesting thing is that I bought my phone on ebay from a guy
in Louisiana, and that rural road where i first got my location is
about 15 miles north of my house and I had never been there before,
but somehow it had a map of the area in t he phone.
I thought the maps came from the web but the location came from
Is there anyway I dl'd the maps when I was at home 15 miles away? I
looked at the Maps app but didn't do much. When I first looked at it,
it said I was at my home, with a map.
I only have 2 gig, btw.
Of course it didn't give directions to any place. I think that is
called Navigate, and when I go there, it wants me to agree to
something, so I leave.
Ok............I was ready to go with this:
I did a chat with ATT (Amber). Amber said this phone does GPS
navigation. It is something that I probably won't use, but I would
rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
She said that to use the GPS I had to get a 5$ per month data package,
but I only had to do that on the months I use the GPS. She also said
that I could get a 15 dollar card and use it in a month. I don't
think that is true. The ATT says the package that comes with this
phone is 25 bucks. This may be a deal breaker. I was ready to go
with 15 a month. At a dime a min, 150 min would have been plenty.
Still 30 buck per month for a smart phone is as low as I have found.
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